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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 02-07-2010, 04:00 PM Thread Starter
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Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

I've tried the CRC Synthetic Brake Grease on my caliper pins and all it does is harden up over time. I just redid the front brakes again and the pins would barely move. This, inturn, wears the pads unevenly. This time I am using the following stuff:

Rubber Grease
Toyota p/n: 08887-01206
About $8 / 100g tube.

Supposedly this is the factory stuff used/provided with brake caliper rebuild kits. It's pink in color.

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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

Where do you buy at?

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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

I ordered it through Toyota.

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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

Thanks.

Your "All in the family" picture looks like mine, except that mine has a corolla instead of a Previa.

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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

I just did some reading.......alldataDIY and my Toyota Factory manuals for my 2003 Sienna.
They do indeed say to use a different grease for the caliper pins than what you use to lube the pad slider points and anti-squeel shims.
They list it as "Lithium Soap Base Glycol Grease".
I did a internet search.....seems a few folks have been wondering about the same thing.....
Came up with just what BMWPOWER lists in his original post.

Thank you for posting this.....as I was wondering about it when I was reading about brakes on my Sienna.
I think this post will save some folks some extra work (doing brakes sooner than they expected).
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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

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I just did some reading.......alldataDIY and my Toyota Factory manuals for my 2003 Sienna.
They do indeed say to use a different grease for the caliper pins than what you use to lube the pad slider points and anti-squeel shims.
They list it as "Lithium Soap Base Glycol Grease".
I did a internet search.....seems a few folks have been wondering about the same thing.....
Came up with just what BMWPOWER lists in his original post.

Thank you for posting this.....as I was wondering about it when I was reading about brakes on my Sienna.
I think this post will save some folks some extra work (doing brakes sooner than they expected).
You are correct. "Lithium Soap Base Glycol Grease" is the name as listed in the factory manuals. I will be trying it out this weekend if all goes well. Will report back my experiences.

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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

Got a change to relube the pins today with the Toyota stuff. The previous brake grease job on the front pins I did from about 1k miles ago was totally gummed up - no movement.

I was doing the rear brakes for the first time today so they still have the factory grease on the pins. Although the remaining grease looked kinda white and not pink, it smelled very similar to the new Toyota stuff I was about to install (moldy smell).

I cleaned out the old grease with a bunch of wooden Q tips, paper towels and Brakleen.

One tip I found out from doing this several times over the past year or so:
When inserting the newly greased pin, do not compress the boot. Insert the pin part way, then with the boot at it's normal position (not compressed or over extended) hold the boot in position and push the pin into the boot so as to not compress the boot or evacuate all the air. Do not create a vacuum like this guy:

http://www.techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/cars/brkjob/
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Don't remove all the air as this leaves the pin compressed in the hole and prevents the pin from moving easily. When doing it my way, the pin should bounce back easily when pushed into the hole with your finger.


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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

Thanks for all this good info!

I tried to order the Toyota grease from the local dealer at $10, but it isn't in the local warehouse, so I did some more research and found some good reviews of Permatex synthetic caliper lube. I think I'll try that.

I also found a good price on Akebono ProAct premium ceramic pads online. $99 for both front and rear including ground shipping from Miami. http://www.placeforbrakes.com/index.php

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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

I always used high temp. anti-seized compound on the pin with great success

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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

Interesting....I've always used the caplier lube on the pins, without any issues. The stuff I use says that's it meant be be used on the pad contact points, backing shims and slider pins. On my 2nd brake job on the Sienna, the slider pins were still very easy to move. I just did that brake job about a month ago and lubed the pins. If I get some time here soon I may yank a caliper and check it out. I'll post back when I do.
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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

Well...a bit late on my update. I changed the pads back in early June and cleaned and re-lubed the pins using the little packs of caliper grease they gave me. Just a couple of weeks ago I finally got around to checking the sliding action of the pins. Well...they were rather sticky. I went to Advanced Auto Parts and bought some dedicated synthetic pin-lube....cleaned and lubed again. Seems better...less brake dust on the rims.
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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

This is the best, most concise forum post I have ever read on any topic, and all contributors should congratulate themselves.
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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

thanks for the list guys. it'll really help me.
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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-20-2014, 10:10 PM
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Re: Do not use brake grease on your caliper pins

I have used Silglyde from Napa auto parts. Works great. Does not gum up and keeps the pins from rusting.
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