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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-15-2017, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
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Toyo Celsius, Nokian WRG3, Continental TrueContact

Hey everyone! It's time to get some new tires for my 2015 XLE AWD. I have 33k miles on the original run-flats and I'm ready to commit to using non-RFTs for this next round. I live in the Boston area so we get a decent amount of snow most winters and we do head up to the mountains a few times a winter so the tire has to perform well in snow but I don't want to have an extra set of winter wheels. So I'm considering the Toyo Celsius and Nokian WRG3 as they are considered "all weather tires" (can handle winter better than an all season) or perhaps the Continental TrueContact (which is an "all season") because they do have good ratings for use in snow. Is anyone using any of these tires? Any thoughts? Thanks!
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-15-2017, 04:47 PM
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Re: Toyo Celsius, Nokian WRG3, Continental TrueContact

Three posts with the same question within 18 minutes is not going to generate more answers.
I just ticks people off.
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Three posts with the same question within 18 minutes is not going to generate more answers.
I just ticks people off.
My bad. As you can tell from my post count I'm new here. I posted to the "3rd gen" category before realizing there was a "tire" category. Then after posting to the "tire" category I did a search (what I should have done in the first place) for "toyo celsius" and found the other post someone else had already made. Again, my apologies.

FWIW I'm still open to feedback related to my question if anyone has any input.
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Re: Toyo Celsius, Nokian WRG3, Continental TrueContact

I've narrowed it down to the Nokian WRG3 SUV and the Michelin Defender LTX M/S. Any opinions? Thanks!
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Re: Toyo Celsius, Nokian WRG3, Continental TrueContact

I run the wgr3's on my subaru for 3 seasons and then pull off for proper snow season to put the studded Nokkian hakkapalitas on. I have driven the wrgs in snow and summer 90f weather. They are amazing. A true all season for normal driving.

I'm at 15,000 miles on my sienna and have Nokkian Hakka R2's as winters. Once the oe run flats wear out I will probably go to wgr3's on the sienna for 3 season weather. They are good enough in the snow that unless you are going skiing every weekend in Colorado you can get away with them through the winter.


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I run the wgr3's on my subaru for 3 seasons and then pull off for proper snow season to put the studded Nokkian hakkapalitas on. I have driven the wrgs in snow and summer 90f weather. They are amazing. A true all season for normal driving.
This is great feedback - thanks! Have you noticed any reduction in MPG with the WRG3? The MPG on the AWD Sienna is so bad I'm hoping to not make it worse.

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I'm at 15,000 miles on my sienna and have Nokkian Hakka R2's as winters. Once the oe run flats wear out I will probably go to wgr3's on the sienna for 3 season weather. They are good enough in the snow that unless you are going skiing every weekend in Colorado you can get away with them through the winter.
Again, great input. Thanks!
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Re: Toyo Celsius, Nokian WRG3, Continental TrueContact

To be honest, on the subaru it doesn't make a difference mileage wise. Doesn't matter if I'm running the studded Hakka 4's, the WGR3's or the summer orientated tires that came on it. It gets within 5 miles a tank irrespective of tires and driving style. Much better mileage than the Sienna unsurprisingly.

It's a legitimate question for the sienna though, I just don't have an answer sorry. I would still consider them. No experience with the other tyres but personally I would also take a look at the Continental since I know they have very good summer rubber compounds. I would be surprised if they didn't have good compounds for other conditions. I know for mountain bikes, continental have excellent compounds for wet slick conditions. Apples to oranges I know, but having the knowledge of what rubber compounds work in what conditions probably transfers within a company to different departments.
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I just got a 2017 Limited AWD but I have put Toyo Celsius tires on two Subaru's on Cleveland and they are holding up great! there is a little more road noise but they work great on are bad roads and worse weather. I'll find out in about 20-25K miles if the Toyo's handle the weight of a Sienna.
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Re: Toyo Celsius, Nokian WRG3, Continental TrueContact

OP update: I'm sitting in the shop right now as my new Nokian WRG3 tires are going on. Local shop had a buy 3 get 1 free deal and at $800 installed with lifetime free rotations and 3 year warranty it seemed a great deal.
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