Oil Filter

[jc]

Watch the Pureone cartridge filter...there's numerous pictures of them collapsing. I stick with OEM Toyota.

Slick, where did you see these filters collapsing??

[points]

I use Ford Motorchaft fl400s for my 2006 Sienna. They are a great fit and filter.

[brian_bp]

I use Ford Motorchaft fl400s for my 2006 Sienna. They are a great fit and filter.

Fascinating... that's the filter that I avoid for my Focus (which has an engine for which this filter is actually intended), because it is missing the anti-drainback valve of the original filter for my Focus. I have no idea of its quality, as I do not have a suitable test lab.

What's wrong with the fit of Toyota's OEM filter for the 3MZ-FE engine?

[wag]

I have never heard of the filter media collapsing on Purolator filters or any of the other quality filters, only on Champion labs E-Core filters. Not even the cheaper Frams are known to do this.
The Toyota/Denso oil filters are very well made but have a much lower filtering efficiency than many other filters. Toyota seems to favor (and spec) a higher flow rate for their OEM filters rather than higher filtering efficiency.
The standard size Purolator Pure One PL10241, Napa/WIX Gold 51348/1348, and Bosch Premium 3330 filters all do a much better filtering job than the OEM Toyota/Denso but their flow rate is lower. This can be compensated for by using the longer versions of these filters which fit well on the 3.0L and 3.3L engines and have almost double the filter media area. The longer filters are the Purolator PL20195, Napa/WIX 51516/1516, and Bosch 3422. These filters will not only filter the oil MUCH better than the OEM Toyota/Denso filters but they also flow better, so you get the best of both worlds. The prices for the shorter standard sized filters and longer filters in the quality brands are the same, about $6.50US. Some additional side benefits to using the longer filter are that they are easier to install/remove on our Siennas because they stick out from under the exhaust manifold a little further and they can also be used for extended OCIs (or even two OCIs).
I am using M1 AFE 0W-30 oil and Purolator Pure One PL20195 filters. With this combination one can easily go 10k miles or 1 year between oil changes, even on the 3.0L sludge monster.

[jc]

I have been changing oil in my vehicles for as long as I have been driving. Now I have a small problem. I went to get the oil and filter at my local parts store and the filter for the Sienna was pulled from the shelves. I have been a die hard Fram guy. I was told there was a recall and they had to pull them. Also checked WalMart this past weekend. No luck. My questions are, has anyone heard anything about this recall and, what filter have you used in the past that worked well. I have noiced that Purolator PureOne filter has gotten good reviews. The Fram filter I used was the ToughGuard. Worked well and easy to find. Until now.

Steve if you are in the US, then check Advance Auto parts online. You can usually get coupons for 15 to 20% off. Order online and pay for it in the store.

On black friday I was able to get a Purolator Pure one filters for $4 each, so I bought 4. I guess I could have gone nuts and really stocked up, but I've been using my oil filters for two oil changes (as discussed on BITOG). I've got 4 oil filters for each of my two vehicles, so I'm good for a few years. I'm also doing extended OCI on both vechiles. Gone from 3000 mi or 5000 km up to (7000 or 8000 km) before I change the oil.


Regards, JC.

[homer]

I'm with toyota on this one, I'm also in favor of oil flow, I wouldn't take a chance due to the investment but I'm pretty sure that you can safely operate an engine wiithout an oil filter. The air filter is another thing, there you need top filtration.

[wag]

I'm with toyota on this one, I'm also in favor of oil flow, I wouldn't take a chance due to the investment but I'm pretty sure that you can safely operate an engine wiithout an oil filter. The air filter is another thing, there you need top filtration.

Actually, IMO I think that Toyota specs the higher flow rate on their OEM filters because they want all of the oil to go through the filter media a higher percentage of the time rather than going into bypass mode and not filtering the oil at all.

[homer]

Actually, IMO I think that Toyota specs the higher flow rate on their OEM filters because they want all of the oil to go through the filter media a higher percentage of the time rather than going into bypass mode and not filtering the oil at all.

Maybe. however the bypass IMHO comes primarely into play when the engine is cold. I personnaly beleive that Toyota think that there is not enough solid of a given size to bother with ultra high filtration rates. What I beleive is that they want plenty of oil period . But hey its only my point of view ;-))

[slickracer]

Here's a collapsed Pure One:

[momokhlf]

Here's a collapsed Pure One:

Are you sure this is PureOne?
I have not tried it before, but I know many oil experts used it and they have good results. I have ordered a case of 12 OEM Toyota oil filters and I am using them with no problem. I think you will not go wrong with any of the best brand oil filters such as Mobil1, Amsoil Ea, NAPA Gold or Sliver, Wix, and others.

Here is some links for oil filters comparison

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html

http://www.300cforums.com/forums/gen...dissected.html

http://dcfiats.org/tech/filter-B.pdf

[wiswind]

I think that there is some confusion here.
The filter in the picture above is the cartridge type filter that is used on the newer Sienna.
On the right side in the picture is a NEW filter......the old filter is on the left.
You are changing ONLY the filter media (maybe a gasket also) and not the can or the center tube, which you can see in the middle part of the picture.
It seems that a company can make a good canister filter and maybe not so good in making the cartridge filter.

It seems that there are a few "bugs" to work out in the replacement cartridge market.
One thing that I notice when I look up the 2007 and newer (3.5L) Sienna filter, on the RockAuto website, is that the Mann and Beck/Arnley brand media has a "end cap" on each end of the media cartridge, whereas the other brands do not.
I am not sure if the pictures are completely accurate to what is specific to this part.....sometimes they may use a "representative" picture to cover several parts.
For sure the printed information is carried over from the old canister type filters.......and would not apply to the part being viewed.

Looking on the RockAuto website......
The years 2007 and up use the cartidge filter, introduced with the 3.5L motor.
The years 2006 and down use the "traditional" canister type filter......where you replace the can.

[jburner]

Anyone find a good replacement cartridge filter for 2007+ models? How much do the toyota filters run? I'm looking at picking up some Napa Gold for 4.73/ea. Is that a good price?

[Shepherd79]

I work for Advance Auto parts and we didn't get that recall. We have ph3614 on the shelf i just checked.
I use Mobil1 or K&N oil filter.
Just remember you get what you pay for and it does apply to auto parts too.