Toyota Sienna Forum - siennachat.com banner

21 - 40 of 49 Posts

·
Registered
2021 Sienna XLE Plus
Joined
·
239 Posts
I've got 3500 on the odometer now after completing a 2500 mile road trip. Think I'll get the oil changed before 5k probably just to be safe, then move to 10k changes after that.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
49 Posts
I changed mine at 1,000 miles just to get rid of any manufacturing chemicals or break-in particles. I plan to change oil every 5,000 miles in the future. Did this on my last Sienna using Mobil-1 oil, and at 220,000 miles, the engine still didn't use any oil, and had zero oil leaks. Don't let the dealership talk you into 10,000 mile oil change intervals. They have an incentive to sell you another car. If you let them change your oil, just demand oil changes at 5,000 mile intervals, and pay for every other oil change.
 

·
Registered
2021 Sienna XLE Plus
Joined
·
239 Posts
I changed mine at 1,000 miles just to get rid of any manufacturing chemicals or break-in particles. I plan to change oil every 5,000 miles in the future. Did this on my last Sienna using Mobil-1 oil, and at 220,000 miles, the engine still didn't use any oil, and had zero oil leaks. Don't let the dealership talk you into 10,000 mile oil change intervals. They have an incentive to sell you another car. If you let them change your oil, just demand oil changes at 5,000 mile intervals, and pay for every other oil change.
Vehicles with fully synthetic oil do not need 5k oil changes unless you drive in extreme conditions. If you want to do it, more power to you as it certainly won't hurt, but neither will doing 7500-10k changes. don't pretend like the vehicle manufacturer (maintenance schedule is published directly by the people who engineered your vehicle at the manufacturer, NOT the dealer) is trying to rip you off and make your car less reliable by recommending 10k oil changes. If they recommend 10k oil changes and that causes reliability issues, you aren't likely to purchase that manufacturer again, so your theory doesn't make any sense. That said, unless you exclusively do highway driving with no load etc. I wouldn't wait the full 10k either.

I've got a Lexus on full synthetic with 240k miles. 7500-10k oil changes. Not a single mechanical issue that was not normal wear and tear, and no leaks or oil consumption. My infiniti went 110k on full synthetic also with the same 7500-10k oil change and no issues before I traded it in for the sienna.

Just as I've done with all my other cars, after my first oil change with close to 10k on it I'll be sending the oil in for analysis and will base my future oil maintenance schedule on the results, but I see no reason why the results won't be the same as my Lexus.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
22 Posts
Will this take 0w20 ok or only 0w16?
The Car Nut Guy had a good youtube video on why you have to use the 0W-16 oil on the the 2.5L engine. I got mine via Amazon (Valvoline). Very reasonable. Purchased the oil filter from the dealer though. Apparently, amazon sells some fakes. It isn't that much more at the dealer.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
117 Posts
The Car Nut Guy had a good youtube video on why you have to use the 0W-16 oil on the the 2.5L engine. I got mine via Amazon (Valvoline). Very reasonable. Purchased the oil filter from the dealer though. Apparently, amazon sells some fakes. It isn't that much more at the dealer.
Oil filters are the same model as current Camry/Rav4/etc right? Pretty much a one size for all for the 2.5L engine models?
 

·
Registered
Toyota Sienna 2021 AWD Platinum
Joined
·
394 Posts
<Distraction : An Automobile forum without a lively and perpetual Oil change thread is like a circus without a clown ;).
I hope no one takes a personal offence. Circus and clown is the only "Ironic Without" scenario coming to my mind right now. May be "a banana without the peel??" >

FWIW, I happened to browse thru the maintenance schedule recently. It spells out that under certain driving conditions, 5K oil change is required. Here's a copy of 5K service. Skip to last four sections about 5K Oil Change exceptions.

I doubt all dealers would ask you about these special conditionls. I suppose the owner is responsible for owning these up and ask the dealer to do additional oil change.

*
5,000 miles or 6 months

■ Add Toyota EFI Tank Additive or equivalent
(Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Saipan only)
■ Check installation of driver’s floor mat
■ Inspect and adjust all fluid levels1
■ Inspect HV battery cooling intake filter 4
■ Inspect wiper blades
■ Rotate tires
■ Visually inspect brake linings/drums
and brake pads/discs

Additional Maintenance Items for
Special Operating Conditions3

Driving on dirt roads or dusty roads:
■ Inspect ball joints and dust covers
■ Inspect drive shaft boots
■ Inspect engine air filter
■ Inspect steering linkage and boots
■ Replace engine oil and oil filter2
■ Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis
and body

Driving while towing, using a car-top
carrier, or heavy vehicle loading:6
■ Replace engine oil and oil filter2
■ Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis
and body

Repeated trips of less than five miles in
temperatures below 32°F / 0°C:
■ Replace engine oil and oil filter2

Extensive idling and/or low speed driving
for a long distance such as police, taxi
or door-to-door delivery use:
■ Replace engine oil and oil filter2
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10 Posts
Hi, I just found this thread so went to get my oil changed. Got an XLE in Jan and over the weekend drove the car from Boston to St Aug Florida. We left with 2k miles on it, mostly around town. And finished up at 3250 when I got it changed today. Will most likely stick to scheduled maint when I get home in a few weeks. I will say, I was pretty happy with the ride down. I found the car very smooth and comfortable. It was my 6yo and our doodle. I cruised pretty good and she really didn't miss a beat at speed. The cruise radar takes some getting used to though. It's not fun having a sudden 15mph slowdown when someone jumps out in front of you.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
51 Posts
I was just going to ask what Toyota Care covers... Good idea to do it this way... (especially for me since I am barely driving these days!)
I would have done this myself but since I don't know the part numbers, I opted to use the free 10k instead.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
13 Posts
<Distraction : An Automobile forum without a lively and perpetual Oil change thread is like a circus without a clown ;).
In every other such thread, there is always somebody singing the praises of oil analysis. The "it looked black on the dipstick so I thought it was time to change the oil" isn't a remotely scientific approach. If you have any questions about the best oil change interval for a given vehicle, do an oil analysis at say 5k and 10k and see if there is any reason to change more frequently than the manufacturer recommends.
 

·
Registered
2021 Sienna XLE Plus
Joined
·
239 Posts
In every other such thread, there is always somebody singing the praises of oil analysis. The "it looked black on the dipstick so I thought it was time to change the oil" isn't a remotely scientific approach. If you have any questions about the best oil change interval for a given vehicle, do an oil analysis at say 5k and 10k and see if there is any reason to change more frequently than the manufacturer recommends.
HI! 👋 🙋🏾‍♂️made my appearance earlier in the thread:

Just as I've done with all my other cars, after my first oil change with close to 10k on it I'll be sending the oil in for analysis and will base my future oil maintenance schedule on the results, but I see no reason why the results won't be the same as my Lexus.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
51 Posts
Just as I've done with all my other cars, after my first oil change with close to 10k on it I'll be sending the oil in for analysis and will base my future oil maintenance schedule on the results, but I see no reason why the results won't be the same as my Lexus.
Wow thanks! I'll be following this thread for the result of the analysis. It would be nice if there was a comparison vs. OEM and aftermarket oil and filter if its available.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
44 Posts
In every other such thread, there is always somebody singing the praises of oil analysis. The "it looked black on the dipstick so I thought it was time to change the oil" isn't a remotely scientific approach. If you have any questions about the best oil change interval for a given vehicle, do an oil analysis at say 5k and 10k and see if there is any reason to change more frequently than the manufacturer recommends.
Agreed! Never go by the color of the oil on the dipstick, lol. The mileage and time and oil analysis only if you want to go longer on the oil. There is no need to change oil early like some have suggested at 1,000 or 1,500 miles on new engines. Thats a thing of the past. Waste of $ and oil resources. Go by the owners manual for oil changes. every 10,000 miles regular service or every 5,000 miles severe service for oil changes.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
53 Posts
Discussion Starter · #38 ·
The way I see it... is that you can't change your oil too often, but you can certainly go too long between oil changes and damage your engine. I have usually done it at 3K anyway, oil is cheap. I have never waited the 7,500 -10K max for an oil change. I look at that as the max limit the manufacturers say you can wait and not as a guideline.
 

·
Registered
2021 Sienna XLE Plus
Joined
·
239 Posts
Changing at 3k is nothing but you padding the pockets of your local service department/mechanic. If it makes you comfortable though, more power to you.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
53 Posts
Discussion Starter · #40 ·
Changing at 3k is nothing but you padding the pockets of your local service department/mechanic. If it makes you comfortable though, more power to you.
I am referring to the first oil change, not at 3K intervals.... after that, I go 5-7 depending on driving conditions. Would never wait for 10K. I usually do my own oil changes, as well.
 
21 - 40 of 49 Posts
Top