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I went with whatever the local shop had on hand. $950 for a set of four non-hideous rims.. worth it. No tire change.

I was going to go with chrome since a lot of the vehicle is blue/chrome but not many silver options in rims.. so the store guy recommended black and it's good?

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(I installed the mudflaps as well, pretty easy!)

But man. I can finally sleep at night. Those factory chrome plastic rims were just H I D E O US.
What size rims is that? Can we get some whole van pictures? Trying to decide if I can get away with just swapping out the 17", or if I need to upsize. Your wheels look good to me
 

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No spacer needed when you run the correct offset. That would as far as I would go though with stock suspension. Super close to the inside of the sliding doors with hitting the door panels.
Trying to stick to XSE OE sizes, so I've purchased the OEM tire size of 235/50R20. All the 20" aftermarket rims are 8.5 inches. Do you think the tires will be too stretched?

What would the ideal offset range be for a 8.5 width wheel?
 

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Appreciate it. Costco carries the Michelin Primacy which it lists as the OEM tire. Just looking for wheels now. Trying to figure out if its worth it to go from cast wheels for $1k but weigh 36lbs, or go for rotary forged wheels for $2100 and weigh 27lbs, or at this point just go for fully forged wheels for about $2800 that will probably clock in at 20 lbs or less.

How are your Rays manufactured, and do you know how much they weigh?

Im really liking these wheels right now Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person but one thing that's really bugging me is they only have a 5 year structural warranty, and it has a disclaimer about not covering damage from potholes. Which probably means they never have to approve any kind of wheel warranty claims.
 

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You are very limited on tire choices and the pricing are much higher. Stay away from garbage GoodYears. Anyway 235 are ok on a 8.5” wide rim. That’s on the high end. As far as offset, anywhere between +28 to +

The link didn’t go through. What is the brand and model of the wheel? You didn’t have spend $2G on semi forged wheels. There are plenty to choose from depends on the design. I tend to stick with Japan made wheels for their quality. Rays Engineering is a well known wheel manufacturer. My wheels weight around 27lbs. With tires, they are not any heavier than the stock ones that I replaced. Another good website to purchase wheels are tirerack and fitment industries. Check them out!
These are TSW Paddocks, rotary forged and at America's tires.
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I'm a huge fan of Rays/Volks. Ill check out those websites, thanks!
 

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I guess you would need hub rings for those wheels. Are you using aluminum or rubber one? Never had to use those so not sure about rims that need to use it like are they safe and how to check if they no longer good.
Those wheels do require a hub centric rings. One thing I like about buying at Americas tire is they will include everything you'll need for your specific vehicle.
 

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Well. Looks like I'm going off the deep end. Since I do plan on keeping this van for 10+years, I figure I'd invest in some really strong wheels so I'll be getting a set of fully forged wheels from BC Forged. Total overkill for a Van, but I rather the wheel bend(forged wheels) than crack(cast/rotary forged) when it comes to meeting potholes.

Load rating on the wheel is 2300lbs, and is both JWL and VIA certified. Overkill is just enough when it comes to my family hauler. They said it should weigh between 22-24lbs each. Not bad for a 20x8 wheel. Hopefully it'll all come out lighter than OEM set even with the 20" tires and reduce unsprung weight.
 

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Running a 235/50R20 on a 8” wide wheel would be ideal. Post a pic of the wheel!
So I've run into a snag. Wheel rep is saying I'll need a 245/45R20, as the XSE OEM size 235/50R20 will be too tall(??) on the forged 8" wheels. Basically if I had an XSE FWD, I wouldn't be able to re-use the 20" tires because the wheels are .5" wider. Doesn't make any sense to me, but then again I'm not a wheel expert.

There's not many LRR tire options as it is and I really wanted to stay OEM tire size. If it comes down to it and I have to switch to get these wheels, has anyone noticed a significant difference in MPG when it comes to switching to a non-LRR tire?
 

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Doesn't make any sense. If anything stretching a tire on a wider rim makes it shorter, not taller. You'll be fine with reusing the same tire. 235 will mount an 8" rim just fine. Hell I am running a 225 on a 9" rim on my sedan.
I'm confused as hell over here, and it's really a deal breaker. I'm going fully forged wheels because that's the only way to get 20" wheels that are really light, and as close to OEM width(7.5") as possible, which is 8" for these wheels, and still use the OEM Michelin 235's. If I can't even retain the OEM 20" tires, then I might as well not do it to be honest. I really don't want to use a non-LRR tire.

Trying to minimize impact to MPG's while adding some style to the van and I'm willing to pay a big upfront cost for that, but I don't want to also feel it every time I go to the pump.
 

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Ok so after some more back and forth, it's due to my earlier request of the wheels being flush. Due to that, he recommended just +15 offset. He said if we do more offset, I can accommodate the OEM sizes. So I've asked him to help me figure out if it's possible to use tires ranging from 235/50R20 to 255/50(or 45 if 50 is not feasible at 255 width). I've given priority over having more tire options available over the wheels just being flush. I've been going through the tire selection, and they are really slim to non-existent when it comes to low rolling resistance tires.

Again, my goal is to add some style to the van while maintaining the hybrid performance. In this case, I'm hoping the lighter Forged wheels will have even better MPG, which is why I am so adamant about sticking to the OEM 20" Michelins so I can compare the MPG to other 2021 Siennas.
 

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+25 should give you that extra cushion. Check the weight on the tire you want to go with as well. Tirerack gives you the spec you will need. I did a lot of research before pulling the trigger on the tire I chose.
Thanks, he did recommend going +20 to +25, so we'll see where we land after he takes into account my new request of broadening the tire selection. By the way, have you calculated what your before and after MPGs were?
 

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Anyone know how strict dealerships/Toyota is when it comes to aftermarket wheels, especially when I'm upsizing from 17 to 20". Sales rep just called me to let me know my van arrived, and I told him I was bugging him every other day because I'm trying to get eyes on my van before I finalize this BC Forged order. Then he hit me with the warranty void statement. I didn't have an issue on the last vehicle I put wheels on, since I stayed OEM at 19", serviced for 5 years at deerskin with no issues even for warranty/wearable with my maintenance contract.

Anyone have any stories or experience with Toyota on this? Magnusson-Moss is great and all, doesn't mean they still won't give you a big headache trying to get warranty work.
 

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It should not void the warranty unless they can prove that whatever issue you need remediated occurred due to your use of the aftermarket wheels. There is nothing that can happen unless you botch your wheel install. An example would be if you buy wheels that are not hubcentric, fail to use hub rings, over torque the wheels, and end up with snapped studs or warped wheel bearings. These things would then not be covered. If you do all of that and your fuel pump gives out, the fuel pump is still covered under warranty because it is not affected by the wheels on the vehicle. Obviously the wheels you buy are warrantied independently and not by the dealer, whereas OEM wheels would be warrantied by Toyota (from defects, not damage unless you buy the wheel/tire warranty sold separately). Tires in either scenario are warrantied by the tire manufacturer.

I've been putting aftermarket wheels on all my new cars for the last 20 years, never once had a warranty claim denied on account of not having OEM wheels/tires.
Thanks. I could see them giving me issues however if it's anything suspension related.
 
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