I just found another thread on this subject at: https://www.siennachat.com/threads/factory-or-aftermarket-birds-eye-view.72162/

 

Here's a link to a system that's for the 4th gen Sienna

Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! $332.00 | suit original OEM monitor 2023 for Toyota Sienna birds eye 360 degree camera 3D Panoramic view Front rear side Surround parking

https://a.aliexpress.com/_m07TwKu

 

This one looks like it's a newer version but with less views. I wonder if anyone had installed one of these and cares to share about their experience. It would be a really neat thing to have. The one I mentioned n post #1 has an actual sienna on the photos provided.

 

I have just ordered one. It should arrive around Christmas.

 

Great. Let us know how it goes. Would you share the product's link here. I can't wait to see a successful install. I am dying to get one too. If you can document the install would be great.

 

Great. Let us know how it goes. Would you share the product's link here. I can't wait to see a successful install. I am dying to get one too. If you can document the install would be great.

The seller is the one from your link.

There's a lot more info into it than just purchase from the link. I have talked with the seller a lot to make sure the one I'm getting fits my vehicle. I have confidence that this will come out nicely. I surely will report back and even do a How-To on this.

 

I have two links posted. Did you buy from the first one or the second one?

That's great! A thank you in advance. I believe I will the the next one to install if all goes well. Will be waiting for your wisdom for installation.

 

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Update on my order, I should have it by Saturday morning, and I'll install it over the weekend. I also ordered the power folding mirror to install together at once. I will report back on how it goes.

 

If you can record the installation process in a video and post it on YouTube and post a link here if possible would be great.

 

Please let us know how it goes! Something I’d like to install if it isn’t too difficult and the results are good. 360 cam is something I wish we had in our Limited. Thank you, @oasis6164!!!!

 

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Updates:

I have installed it over the weekend, along with a power folding mirror. The calibration cloth thing is at the postal office, which I can't get today, so the set-up hasn't been calibrated yet.

So far it looks promising. I'll share more pictures and experience once I have it calibrated.

 

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays! Pre-limenary report. How long did it take? Are you Chinese? Can it also be in English?

 

No. You did not misread. I mistyped.

With 2 separate cameras. Do you mean people with the OEM digital rear view camera have 2 cameras on the back? Or is this 360 unit has a build in digital rearview camera as well?

So If I were to keep the OEM reverse camera in place and drill a new hole for the backup camera, is the OEM rearview function/display still available when not using the aftermarket 360 unit? I ask this is because I would not want to modify original hardware too much since it might void warranty. I assume add-ons don't count as modifications.

FYI. The OEM reverse camera collects water as well. Ceramic coating helps a bit for me.

If you have an OEM digital rearview camera, you should have two cameras in place already in the back. You will need to replace one to the 360, the one shows on your screen when going to reverse. I don't think you will have enough space to have all 3 cameras together.

If you do not have an OEM digital rearview camera, you should only have one camera in place. You should replace that one with the 360. You have an empty spot that you can drill to mount the new 360 camera, but you have to adjust the angle for it. In my opinion, drill another spot for new camera is more mod than replace the one. Replace, on the other hand, is plug and play and a direct fit, without any drilling or cutting. And it should not void your warranty as long as the camera is not the cause of the issue. There are a bunch of case laws there, the carmaker can't just void your warranty because you have an aftermarket camera when your drivetrain has failed, for example.

Keeping the OEM camera will not do any good for the 360, because when you put in reverse, the OEM reserve camera will try to be on top of the 360. So in my case I have the OEM camera unplugged and kept in my glove box, it will show a black screen when going into reverse. The best way to go around this, whether you keep the OEM camera plugged or not, and you want to see the 360 when going reverse, is to cut the reserve signal on the 360's extension Plug & Play harness behind the radio. By doing this, the OEM screen/radio/head unit will never know the car is in reserve, but the 360 will, and kick in the reverse image. This is NOT cutting the OEM harness, so you can restore everything anytime, no factory harness/wiring or camera were damaged. The only things are irreversible in this entire set up are, the hole under your mirror casing, and the front camera wire firewall pass-through. Of course, you will have to pull out all the wires if you decide to remove it, but none of those were cut into anything OEM.

 

If you have an OEM digital rearview camera, you should have two cameras in place already in the back. You will need to replace one to the 360, the one shows on your screen when going to reverse. I don't think you will have enough space to have all 3 cameras together.

If you do not have an OEM digital rearview camera, you should only have one camera in place. You should replace that one with the 360. You have an empty spot that you can drill to mount the new 360 camera, but you have to adjust the angle for it. In my opinion, drill another spot for new camera is more mod than replace the one. Replace, on the other hand, is plug and play and a direct fit, without any drilling or cutting. And it should not void your warranty as long as the camera is not the cause of the issue. There are a bunch of case laws there, the carmaker can't just void your warranty because you have an aftermarket camera when your drivetrain has failed, for example.

Keeping the OEM camera will not do any good for the 360, because when you put in reverse, the OEM reserve camera will try to be on top of the 360. So in my case I have the OEM camera unplugged and kept in my glove box, it will show a black screen when going into reverse. The best way to go around this, whether you keep the OEM camera plugged or not, and you want to see the 360 when going reverse, is to cut the reserve signal on the 360's extension Plug & Play harness behind the radio. By doing this, the OEM screen/radio/head unit will never know the car is in reserve, but the 360 will, and kick in the reverse image. This is NOT cutting the OEM harness, so you can restore everything anytime, no factory harness/wiring or camera were damaged. The only things are irreversible in this entire set up are, the hole under your mirror casing, and the front camera wire firewall pass-through. Of course, you will have to pull out all the wires if you decide to remove it, but none of those were cut into anything OEM.

I don't have an OEM digital rearview mirror and hence only one camera in the back.

I see what you mean from your pictures. The OEM camera has a plug and play plug to remove camera as shown. So you unplugged the OEM camera and secured the original cable to the side, while pulling a completely separate cable for the 360 camera and have the 360 camera in place of the OEM camera.

When you say: "in my case I have the OEM camera unplugged and kept in my glove box, it will show a black screen when going into reverse" Do you mean you have not cut the reserve signal on the 360's extension Plug & Play harness behind the radio yet, hence you now don't have a reverse image on the head unit screen?

If you have cut the reserve signal on the 360's extension Plug & Play harness, then how does kicked in 360 reverse backup image looks like? Is the backup image decent enough, or better, then the OEM reverse image?

I can see the black cable coming from the 360 camera. But what is the folded up red cable towards the right? Is that a cable patched to the reverse lights to trigger the 360 reverse camera to kick in response when shifted into reverse?

 

When you say: "in my case I have the OEM camera unplugged and kept in my glove box, it will show a black screen when going into reverse" Do you mean you have not cut the reserve signal on the 360's extension Plug & Play harness behind the radio yet, hence you now don't have a reverse image on the head unit screen?

Yes. Before cutting that wire, the OEM reverse image will kick in on top of the 360. Once cut, head unit will never know if the car is in reserve, but 360 knows and will be able to kick in.

The reserve on 360 is better. But not a day and night difference. You can set it to just reserve, like OEM, or half screen for reverse and half for top bird view.

I can see the black cable coming from the 360 camera. But what is the folded up red cable towards the right? Is that a cable patched to the reverse lights to trigger the 360 reverse camera to kick in response when shifted into reverse?

That red cable is just taped and not being used in our van. On some aftermarket backup cameras, that could be a power or trigger wire, and it has the same red tail on the other side. Just like run an extra wire to do anything you want, but it's embedded in the camera wire.

 

HI all, I bought the same system, waiting on delivery. Oasis6164, did you have time to make a video o description of the install? Thank you in advance

 

I second this, I also ordered it and I received it today. I will attempt to instill it tomorrow weather permitting.

 

I've been sick recently, I'll post my installation process in a couple of days.

 

Sorry to hear that, hope you are feeling better. If you don’t mind, can you please post the pics of the mirrors, the front grill camera and the inside and outside of the touchscreen radio? I will try to install this tomorrow but want to make sure I place the cameras in the mirrors and the wire adapter in the touch screen correctly.

I appreciate any assistance you can provide.

 

Here's a few more pictures to see the image quality. Not fully calibrated yet. The left and front seems ok. Right camera not correct. It was very windy when I tried to calibrate it last weekend. Will have to find a indoor space large enough for that.

 

Here are the pictures I took.

 

Did any of you written up the installation procedures already? Is it in a different post? Please post a link here if you have.

 

I didn't write up a installation procedure and unfortunately did not take any video as I did the installation in a span of a week due to the weather. Using the youtube videos I posted earlier as well as general knowledge I did the following;

1. Remove the radio. Take off the back piece. It just pops off with a pry tool or a small flat head screw driver. Remove the 4 top bolts holding the radio in place. Pull the radio out. Disconnect every wire harness attached to the radio. You have to press the tabs to take them out.

2. Once you do that and the radio is out of the van, you have to remove the screws that is attached to the black plastic housing holding the radio to the touch screen. As
oasis6164 noted, take your time on this one. You might want to first take a pic of the screws so you know where to put them back when you put back together the radio. Once you remove the screws, you should be able to remove the black plastic housing from the radio. Then remove the additional screws holding the touch screen from the back portion of the radio. Once you do this the touch screen should be loose enough to seperate.

3. Gently seperate the touch screen from the rest of the radio. Follow the instructions on the guide and remove the long black short ribbon (the right one) from the touch screen. You have to press down to loose the clip. The other big white ribbon (left) should remain in place and attached to the radio and touchscreen. Take that short black ribbon per the pictures and attach it to the 360 bigger board (there are 2 boards, a big one and a small one) . Make sure you press back up the tab and check to make sure the connection is secure. Take the white short ribbon that is attached to 360 bigger board and attach it to the touch screen board where you removed the black short ribbon. Make sure you check the connection. Per the picture you can then place a piece of electrical tape and attach the bigger board ribbon to the metal base of the radio. After this you can start putting back the radio together by attaching the touch screen back to the radio with the screws and last the black plastic housing with the screws. There is going to be the short black ribbon with the yellow tape on the little board will be hanging outside of the radio. You can see it on my picture. You should remove the yellow tape and wrap it with electrical tape and tape it to the bottom of the radio.

4. Attach the wire harnesses in the Van to the 360, and attach the 360 to the radio remaining harnesses. The one you just installed in the radio should be attached to the 360. There is one harnness that controls the SRS airbag sensor will need to be re-attached to the radio. It is located on the left hand side in the back of the touch screen. Once you attach everything, attach just the camera only to the 360. Black is Front, Yellow is Back, Red is left and Blue is Right. Turn car and radio on. and test to make sure it is working. You will have to go into reverse to activate 360 if it does not activate itself on its own. You can also use the remote if you pull the IR out. The kit did not come with the battery for the remote so you have to order it seperately. Its CR2025. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071CTWW5Z?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details If it does come on and the cameras do work, then you are done with this part, and you can detach the cameras from the 360. Leave the radio attached to the wire harnesses and not put back in its place in the van. As an option, you may also attach usb memory stick to the 360 for recording purposes. I attached a 128 gig one and had to format it in the unit.

While the radio is still out as oasis6164 noted you have to cut a wire on the 360 harness, see the picture below he posted earlier so the 360 will engage when you put the car in reverse, else you will see a blank screen.

5.

Open the trunk and using the video above to take off the panel. My van has JBL premium speakers so I had to remove 4 bolts that was holding the speaker housing, and remove the wire harness. Then I was able to access the rear camera housing. Removed the 2 screws holding it in place and detached the wire harness. The wire harness will no longer be used so you can zip tie it to other wires if you like. Attached the 360 rear camera to the same spot you removed the old one. Attach the yellow long wire to the rear camera. You have to run it through the ceiling to the front of the van (either side). The high brake light panel can pe popped off. I ran mine through the left side as I previously ran my digital rear view mirror on the left side as well (see picture) . You should be able to stuff the wire in the ceiling etc by making an opening small enough with your fingers. The ceiling etc does give way to make this happen. Once you ran it to the front you can stop running it once you reach the front driver side door or front passenger side door (see pic below). Put back the JBL speaker with the 4 bolts and put back the trunk Door Panel. Make sure you have enough slack so when the trunk open and close it does not pull the camera wires apart.

6.

Using the Start X video, you need to open the paneling on both sides so you can run the wires to the radio. Once you did this then you can fish the rear wire to the radio. To do that you will need a wire tool. I used this one for all of the fishing. You can use that or something similar. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PGPGT2P?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 . Set the wire fish up and stick it through the hole from the radio to the side where you ran the wire to. You should make it long enough so you can see it once you fished it down. Then attach the rear wire to the fish and gently pull it back up then connect it to the 360 Red wire. As oasis6164 noted, you will need an extension or 2 to make sure the wire reaches the radio. I didn't need the extension for the other wires just for the rear one. Leave the paneling and the radio open until you have ran all of the wires.


* To be continued *

 

Continued

7.

For the front camera for all models open the hood. Take off front black plastic big panel over the grill by removing the pop up tabs. There are several holding it in place. You will need a pry tool similar to this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C1857QC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 . Be carefull not to break them as they can easily break. If so you can buy some replacement ones. Once you remove the panel, the second part will depend on the type of front grill you have. If you have the LE model, you can attach the black wire with the short wire cover to the front camera enclosed in the bracket. Fish the wire through the front gril top line just under the Toyota emblem and place the camera in the center of the emblem. If you have the XSE like me, you will have to do the following. Screw off the front camera from the bracket housing and screw it on the provided universal bracket. You will need to drill 2 small holes, smaller than the provided screws so you can screw them on. What I did was place the universal camera in the front grill top line just under the emblem (see picture) and held it there while I drilled one of the holes. Then I screwed one in place holding the camera. Then I drilled the other one and installed the screw. Once you install the camera with either method, you have to run the wire from the grill to the left side of the van where the engine wires go into the interior. (see pictures). You can follow either mine or oasis6164 method. https://www.siennachat.com/threads/how-to-install-360-degrees-birds-eye-view-camera-system.75349/#post-462452 . If you are following mine then you can do the following; connect the fishing to 2 or 3 of the rods assuming you are using the one similar to the one above. Locate the rubber wire housing leading to the interior as per the pictures, pry it out by making a small opening enough so you can fish the wire pole through. Keep the opening in one hand and start fishing the pole through so you can push it through with no obstruction and you can see the pole in the interior. Once you seen the pole in the interior, then connect the camera wire to the pole and then carefully pull it through. Just have enough slack in the engine so you can zip tie the wires etc. In the interior just like you did for the back camera wire, go to the radio and start placing the wire fish pole down through the opening until you see it at the bottom passenger side. Then you can connect the fish to the front wire and fish it up to the radio and connect it. Then you can begin to zip tie the front wires and push back the rubber housing and place back the panel etc.

8.

For the left driverside door mirror do the following; Using the above video, take off door panel and take off the mirror. Using the 2nd video above, dissassemble the mirror by just removing the mirror and the backside cover only. You do not need to dissable the whole mirror as that is not needed but remove the mirror and back cover only. Using the provided driller extension, drill the hole using my pictures as a reference. Use caution to only drill in the open part and not to touch any other part. using the pictures as a reference, place the slanted rubber camera holder in the hole. Place the blue camera in. The eye should be facing around the 7-8:00pm position (clock reference). Grab the red wire extension and you will have to work on fishing it through from the plug to the backside of the mirror. The rubber housing where the wire harness does give way some and you might want to try to use a wire fish. If sucessfull you can then connect it to the camera. Just have a little slack in the housing if you need to re-adjust the camera position later and for if you have power folding mirrors. (mine does not) After connecting it to the camera lense, you then can put the back piece and the mirror back on. Re-attach the mirror back to the door. At the door where it connects the wires running from the door to the interior, you can pry open the rubber wire housing enough to run a fish wire through. Connect the camera wire to that fish wire and pull it through. Next pry open the rubber housing to the interior of the van and fish a wire through until you can see it inside. Then connect that camera wire to the fish wire and pull through genlty until its all inside. Leave some slack so you can open and close the door without pulling the wire. See the picture below as a reference. Do the same step for the rear view camera by going to the radio and fish another wire pole down until you see it and connect it to the camera wire and pull it up to the radio and connect it. Then you can re-install the door panel and the left driver side paneling too once you zip tie everything.

Driverside camera

driverside door

For the right side passenger door mirror is the same as the left side except to place the camera lense in the 3-4:00 position. I was unable to fish the wire from the door to the interior due to the wires was obstructing so I ran the wire from the door to the paneling. You can use the picture below as a reference. Once you fished it through the procedure is the same as you installed the front camera by going to the top radio and fish the wire pole to the right and attach the right camera wire to it. The blue extension wire is for the right camera. Once it is connected then all four cameras are now connected. You can put back up the door panel, and the right side paneling, glove box, zip ties etc.

Passengerside camera

passengerside door

9.

 

If you look under the mirror where you installed the camera, isn't there already a circular mark there? I looks like it is closer towards the door. I wonder if that is the location for the actuall mark for the OEM 360 camera? Please comment for all of you that already installed the discused 360 system.

Also, I see you route the door camera cable outside of the rubber housing housing where other cable are routed thru there. I wonder why you don't route the cable inside of that rubber corrugated tube?

 

Below are some of the pics I took of the 360 in action. To me, it is a drastic improvement on the reverse camera and dynamic lines are back. The 360 will automatically will turn on when you are getting too close to something if you have it in drive. Some of the pics was in a car wash and others was in a parking lot.

One of the pics shows my cell phone holder, that I sometime use when I am ubering. If you want one for your sienna, I brought it from here;

QHCP Car Instrument Dashboard Storage Box Phone Bracket Main Drive Co-pilot For Toyota Highlander Kluger Corolla Sienna IZOA CHR - AliExpress

 

Hi Shakarv, do you know if this will work on 2023 Sienna XLE. Below i see comment about Denso and Panasonic head unit. do you know how to check in Sienna? did you asked seller to program it according to your head unit?
Thanks
karan

 

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I didn't write up a installation procedure and unfortunately did not take any video as I did the installation in a span of a week due to the weather. Using the youtube videos I posted earlier as well as general knowledge I did the following;

1. Remove the radio. Take off the back piece. It just pops off with a pry tool or a small flat head screw driver. Remove the 4 top bolts holding the radio in place. Pull the radio out. Disconnect every wire harness attached to the radio. You have to press the tabs to take them out.

2. Once you do that and the radio is out of the van, you have to remove the screws that is attached to the black plastic housing holding the radio to the touch screen. As
oasis6164 noted, take your time on this one. You might want to first take a pic of the screws so you know where to put them back when you put back together the radio. Once you remove the screws, you should be able to remove the black plastic housing from the radio. Then remove the additional screws holding the touch screen from the back portion of the radio. Once you do this the touch screen should be loose enough to seperate.

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3. Gently seperate the touch screen from the rest of the radio. Follow the instructions on the guide and remove the long black short ribbon (the right one) from the touch screen. You have to press down to loose the clip. The other big white ribbon (left) should remain in place and attached to the radio and touchscreen. Take that short black ribbon per the pictures and attach it to the 360 bigger board (there are 2 boards, a big one and a small one) . Make sure you press back up the tab and check to make sure the connection is secure. Take the white short ribbon that is attached to 360 bigger board and attach it to the touch screen board where you removed the black short ribbon. Make sure you check the connection. Per the picture you can then place a piece of electrical tape and attach the bigger board ribbon to the metal base of the radio. After this you can start putting back the radio together by attaching the touch screen back to the radio with the screws and last the black plastic housing with the screws. There is going to be the short black ribbon with the yellow tape on the little board will be hanging outside of the radio. You can see it on my picture. You should remove the yellow tape and wrap it with electrical tape and tape it to the bottom of the radio.

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4. Attach the wire harnesses in the Van to the 360, and attach the 360 to the radio remaining harnesses. The one you just installed in the radio should be attached to the 360. There is one harnness that controls the SRS airbag sensor will need to be re-attached to the radio. It is located on the left hand side in the back of the touch screen. Once you attach everything, attach just the camera only to the 360. Black is Front, Yellow is Back, Red is left and Blue is Right. Turn car and radio on. and test to make sure it is working. You will have to go into reverse to activate 360 if it does not activate itself on its own. You can also use the remote if you pull the IR out. The kit did not come with the battery for the remote so you have to order it seperately. Its CR2025. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071CTWW5Z?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details If it does come on and the cameras do work, then you are done with this part, and you can detach the cameras from the 360. Leave the radio attached to the wire harnesses and not put back in its place in the van. As an option, you may also attach usb memory stick to the 360 for recording purposes. I attached a 128 gig one and had to format it in the unit.

While the radio is still out as oasis6164 noted you have to cut a wire on the 360 harness, see the picture below he posted earlier so the 360 will engage when you put the car in reverse, else you will see a blank screen.


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5.

Open the trunk and using the video above to take off the panel. My van has JBL premium speakers so I had to remove 4 bolts that was holding the speaker housing, and remove the wire harness. Then I was able to access the rear camera housing. Removed the 2 screws holding it in place and detached the wire harness. The wire harness will no longer be used so you can zip tie it to other wires if you like. Attached the 360 rear camera to the same spot you removed the old one. Attach the yellow long wire to the rear camera. You have to run it through the ceiling to the front of the van (either side). The high brake light panel can pe popped off. I ran mine through the left side as I previously ran my digital rear view mirror on the left side as well (see picture) . You should be able to stuff the wire in the ceiling etc by making an opening small enough with your fingers. The ceiling etc does give way to make this happen. Once you ran it to the front you can stop running it once you reach the front driver side door or front passenger side door (see pic below). Put back the JBL speaker with the 4 bolts and put back the trunk Door Panel. Make sure you have enough slack so when the trunk open and close it does not pull the camera wires apart.

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6.

Using the Start X video, you need to open the paneling on both sides so you can run the wires to the radio. Once you did this then you can fish the rear wire to the radio. To do that you will need a wire tool. I used this one for all of the fishing. You can use that or something similar. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PGPGT2P?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 . Set the wire fish up and stick it through the hole from the radio to the side where you ran the wire to. You should make it long enough so you can see it once you fished it down. Then attach the rear wire to the fish and gently pull it back up then connect it to the 360 Red wire. As oasis6164 noted, you will need an extension or 2 to make sure the wire reaches the radio. I didn't need the extension for the other wires just for the rear one. Leave the paneling and the radio open until you have ran all of the wires.


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Thank you so much for such a great job and kindness of writing these instructions. It will make it a lot easier for us. Amazing. I'm starting installation today along with heated steering wheel upgrade. Thank you!!

 

Please let us know how it goes. If you don’t mind, may you please take some pictures and do a write up on the heated steering wheel? I’m thinking about doing that as my next project.

 

Can anyone comment how this aftermarket unit compares with the oem 360 camera on the Platinum trim in terms of video quality and performance?

 

I just placed an order from aliexpress, https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806052021943.html, turns out the US sienna has "Panasonic" head unit and "Denso" head unit, make sure you talk to the store before you place the order so that they can ship the correct device. Both types share the same product link, they will program the device differently when it's shipped.

 

I purchased this https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806052021943.html and the ribbon cables from the Big Board are different sizes than the ribbon cables on the radio? One is bigger than original and the other is smaller than original. Also I don't have a long and a short ribbon. They are the same length, black with white edges.

 

I have 2023 Sienna. can i install in that as well? the one on ali express says 2024"suit original OEM monitor 2024 for Toyota Sienna birds eye 360 camera 3D Panoramic view Front rear side Surround reverse system "
How do you get power for this and also how to connect to the dash display to see the camera?

 

Following