4th generation weight distribution
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I will swing by the scale that I use and have them print off a front and rear axle weight. When I'm empty. Also, the Sienna is 4800 lb minimum when empty without the mid row seats. The Platinum trim actually comes in around 5100 empty. I have a base model le awd, and without the mid row seats and completely empty, my scale ticket without me in was 4800. That one doesn't have a distribution of front and rear though. I don't see how any trim could be any lighter, i do have a 55 lb draw bar added on the rear, there isn't much else you can take out. The mid row seats may be weigh about 100 lb combined.
Our LE FWD is more like a supermodel and is quite light in comparison
This is with all seats in and presumably spare tire. Got from toyota.ca site. 2022 Toyota Sienna Specifications | Toyota Canada
Maybe it's the currency exchange... JK
LE FWD
| Base Curb Weight kg (lbs.) | 2091.06 (4610.0) |
XLE FWD 4,645 lbs
XSE FWD 4,675 lbs
LE AWD 4,740 lbs
XSE AWD 4,780 lbs
Limited AWD 4,825 lbs
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I should be able to hit the scale today, since they won't be busy. sorry for the delay, hard to do anything when you are driving 10 hours a day. I don't wanna do anything when I get home.
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Was able to get to the scale today. Sorry for the delay.
This is a 2021 LE AWD, with a full tank of gas, and the mid row seats removed, as well as much of my daily junk removed too(folding hand truck, box of supplies, emergency toolkit, ect). I took out as much as I reasonably could.
Total weight: 4720
Front axle: 2540
Rear axle: 2180
If I had to guess, the mid row seats are about 100 pounds total. I really would like to know where or when toyota got their weigh(4610). Mine is as base model as it can get, with no mid row seat, and its still way over what toyota claims mine would be. The higher trims obviously have more weight to start because of more features. I have said this before, but im pretty sure that the platinum trim comes in at 5100 pounds empty.
this weight lines up perfectly with my other weight, which was 4800 empty, which did include all my daily crap that stays in the van.
This is a 2021 LE AWD, with a full tank of gas, and the mid row seats removed, as well as much of my daily junk removed too(folding hand truck, box of supplies, emergency toolkit, ect). I took out as much as I reasonably could.
Total weight: 4720
Front axle: 2540
Rear axle: 2180
If I had to guess, the mid row seats are about 100 pounds total. I really would like to know where or when toyota got their weigh(4610). Mine is as base model as it can get, with no mid row seat, and its still way over what toyota claims mine would be. The higher trims obviously have more weight to start because of more features. I have said this before, but im pretty sure that the platinum trim comes in at 5100 pounds empty.
this weight lines up perfectly with my other weight, which was 4800 empty, which did include all my daily crap that stays in the van.
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Gasoline weighs 6lbs per gallon x 17 gallons = 102 lbs. Oil, multiple coolants, wiper fluid, etc., should be able to double that. In the motorcycle world, dry weight specs are a big marketing tool so when those guys say "dry" they really mean NO fluids (even fork oil) to get that number as low as possible even if it's not realistic.
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maybe the 4610 lbs is for the FWD version
Yup, see post # 4.
Screencap from toyota.com, we've got quite the featherweight rear electric motor. The XLE FWD and AWD also weigh in at 4625 lbs, Platinum is 4725 lbs. I suppose Toyota is up to their game of average weights.
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the canadian site seems way more accurate, but still doesn't make sense. I should weight the mid row seats and see how heavy they actually are. I figure they are about 100 pounds, and I have an OEM drawbar, so if the seats were in, that would put my empty weight at about 4820 or more. that is a lot of cargo capacity lost considering the GVWR is 6175. 100 pounds could mean the difference between the dog overloads you or not.
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It makes perfect sense. The published weight of LE AWD (canadian) is 4740 lbs. Your actual is 4720 lbs coz you removed seats, added fluids. Thanks for posting the weights btw. Nice to know both the AWD and FWD are within the 55/45 percent weight distribution.
the weight data published by toyota usa is wrong. Awd and fwd cannot be the same weight. Also why are canadian mpg estimates so high?
Different testing standards.
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Actually, those are Imperial MPG. 6.7 L/100 km = 42 MPG (Imperial) = 35 MPG (US)
Just love those different units, eh?
I should add... I've never met a person in Canada who would state fuel consumption in Imperial MPG. I'm not even sure why it's listed.
Yeah, I don't even state in L/100 km usually... normally just mention US MPG which is what I understand.
Even in spreadsheet I track in MPG.
Had a few salespeople over the years trying to use the imperial MPG as same as US MPG... training not what it used to be or perhaps it is!!
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Based on all your input/data - i can extrapolate that the Sienna AWD has a 53.5 / 46.5 F/B ratio. Sienna FWD has 55/45. Odyssey Elite has 56/44. Interesting to note that the Sienna AWD LE is almost the same weight as the Sienna Platinum/Limited FWD. Also, the Ody Elite is almost the same weight as the FWD Sienna LE (lightest variation). But the lightest Odyssey is about 200 lbs less than the Elite model.
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Lastly, I am not too certain about which is heavier - the Woodland or AWD XSE. I guess it all boils down to what options are ordered.
Lastly, I am not too certain about which is heavier - the Woodland or AWD XSE. I guess it all boils down to what options are ordered.
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