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All-weather tires? California Bay Area

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We got a 2015 Sienna Limited Premium AWD in the spring. I really like the car, but I realize the stock tires are terrible in the snow. We live in California (Bay Area), so we have very mild winter and no snow at all in our daily driving. However, we have a cabin up in the Sierra (Bear Valley to be precise at about 5,000ft) and we like to use it a decent amount of time in the winter. I'm not looking to buy dedicated winter tires as that would be an overkill, but, during my research, I found out about the Nokian WRG3 SUV and the Toto Celsius CUV. They are supposed to be All-Weather tires (with the snowflake symbol just like winter tires) and offer better winter traction that regular All-Seasons. Has anyone used them, any feedback? I was also looking at the Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season Plus (btw we had some Scorpion on our old Mazda CX-9 and they did fine). I found the Nokian for $200/ea, the Toyo and the Pirelli for about 160/ea. I don't mind spending a little more for extra safety, I also don't mind the additional wear of the All-Weather as the Sienna will probably only get driven 8,000-10,000 in a year
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http://www.siennachat.com/forum/89-...se-wheels-fit-michelin-ltx-ms-245-65-r17.html

I just put on AT tires to replace my worn out michelin primacy tires. I think they are rated for snow... they are not run flats, which is a good thing! let me know if you have any questions...
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Go with all season tires for your type of you road. Scorpion Verde should be a nice choice plus it has good wear life. Aside from Michelin LTX, here's a couple of good choices:
Continental Crosscontact LX20
Goodyear Assurance Tripletred
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I ended up getting some Toyo Celsius CUV in 235-55-18. They are all-weather and they have the snowflake symbol. They are for sure swishier than the stock Bridgestone, but I don't really care if they wear out faster than conventional all-season. I was all excited to test them out in the Sierra this week (major snow coming), but some family emergency (all resolved) kept us down in the Bay Area. Driving up tomorrow, no fresh snow in the forecast, but still snow/ice on the ground (Plus the driveway to the cabin is shaded, so there will for sure be snow/ice there)

I will let everyone know. Initial thought is that they are not noisier, they are actually pretty quiet. However, they feel like there is a slight delayed response in quick steering. But since this is not a sportcar, i don't think it matters
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@Mark80scu I'm thinking about buying the Toyo Celsius but am hesitant because I haven't found many reviews from Sienna AWD owners. Can you pleeeeease provide some feedback about them? I'd REALLY appreciate it!
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Where do you live?
FWD or AWD van?
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lipster said:
Where do you live?
FWD or AWD van?
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2015 XLE AWD
Boston area - mostly driving around town but we head up to the mountains a few times a winter if the snow is falling
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Boston? and no change you can have dedicated snow tires? I live in Salt Lake and every winter when people are out playing bumper cars; I'm SO happy to have my dedicated Blizzaks (they are on all my cars). If you question me which is more valuable snow tires or AWD; it is snow tires every time. Of course in life if you are asked to pick from 2 great safety features, always choice both. Would you like seat belts or air bags? Um, I'll take both please.
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sierrasclimber said:
Boston? and no change you can have dedicated snow tires? I live in Salt Lake and every winter when people are out playing bumper cars; I'm SO happy to have my dedicated Blizzaks (they are on all my cars). If you question me which is more valuable snow tires or AWD; it is snow tires every time. Of course in life if you are asked to pick from 2 great safety features, always choice both. Would you like seat belts or air bags? Um, I'll take both please.
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Haha indeed. I had the separate summer/winter wheelsets on my two previous Subaru Foresters and I'm trying to avoid the extra cost and hassle of switching. From what I have read the WRG3, Celsius, and Defender LTX M/S can handle snow without a problem but they're also quiet and smooth for the rest of the year. If I lived in a rural area or I went skiing every weekend I'd absolutely go with a separate winter wheelset, but I'm in the city where the roads are cleared pretty quickly and well so I'm really hoping for a tire that drive nicely all year but can handle snow/slush really well a few times a year when I encounter it.
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