Any issues with no TPMS?
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My full-size spare doesn't have TPMS. I had to use it a couple of times. Both times, TPMS went blank for the other 3 tires too. I drove on the spare for a couple of days. I had a persistent system message to take it to a dealer. No issues otherwise. I suppose all 4 without TPMS would act about the same, but let's see what others say about it.
( I don't think the other 3 went blank first time I used spare. But I can't exactly recall. The 2nd time, I got a flat while driving so the system message came on while driving. I switched to spare wheel while car was still on. May be that made system message stick and the other 3 to go blank too. It all started working fine itself when I put OEM rim with new tire back.)
( I don't think the other 3 went blank first time I used spare. But I can't exactly recall. The 2nd time, I got a flat while driving so the system message came on while driving. I switched to spare wheel while car was still on. May be that made system message stick and the other 3 to go blank too. It all started working fine itself when I put OEM rim with new tire back.)
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You risk being hunted down by responsible people and bitch slapped. 
Come on! TPMS is inexpensive and can save you from getting into dangerous and inconvenient situations. You don't even have to do any programming since your gen 4 Sienna automatically learns new TPMS ID's.
TPMS is required on vehicles that came with it. No responsible tire shop will install tires without TPMS on your Sienna.
Come on! TPMS is inexpensive and can save you from getting into dangerous and inconvenient situations. You don't even have to do any programming since your gen 4 Sienna automatically learns new TPMS ID's.
TPMS is required on vehicles that came with it. No responsible tire shop will install tires without TPMS on your Sienna.
Thanks for your reply. Perhaps you could actually be helpful and point me to an "inexpensive" TPMS monitor that works on a 2022 XSE then? They are unavailable at every dealer near me, they are $340 at Tire Rack (NOT inexpensive), and I'd rather not risk installing ones that do not work, since that would be a massive pain in the ass.You risk being hunted down by responsible people and bitch slapped.
Come on! TPMS is inexpensive and can save you from getting into dangerous and inconvenient situations. You don't even have to do any programming since your gen 4 Sienna automatically learns new TPMS ID's.
TPMS is required on vehicles that came with it. No responsible tire shop will install tires without TPMS on your Sienna.
Apologies for not knowing that the car learns new TPMS - I just got the car. That's wonderful. However it also contradicts what many posts on this forum (and others) say, and Tire Rack told me I would need to take it to a dealer to program them. The dealer also said the same thing.
So let me recap for you:
1. I just got the car and I am trying to learn about it, since the owners manual isn't helpful on the issue. I came to a forum to figure it out, and got contradictory information.
2. The options that work are either not available or not inexpensive.
3. The dealer and Tire Rack both told me they need to be programmed, while you stated the opposite. Somebody is wrong, but I don't know who.
See why I am confused? See why I thought about just ditching the TPMS for three months a year?
Perhaps it is because I own several motorcycles, AND I AM RESPONSIBLE, that I actually check the tire pressure on my vehicles. I own 6 pressure gauges. One in each car, one on each bike, and one for the garage. Only IRRESPONSIBLE people would rely on TPMS as their sole source of determining/setting tire pressure.
It's incredible, I know, but I drove for many years and hundreds of thousands of miles without TPMS and somehow managed to have my tires appropriately inflated. It's amazing I am still alive.
I mean, I live in Boston and actually own winter tires for my vehicles, something probably fewer than 1% of people in this area do, but I am definitely not responsible.
But thank you for your snarky reply. It managed to not only answer my actual question, but also lectured me for no reason. Maybe one day I will have nearly 4000 posts on a Toyota Sienna forum, and be as smart, successful, and RESPONSIBLE as you!
I used to run my V6 Venza Limited AWD without TPMS during winter and though the dash would be lit by that low pressure logo, I never encountered any problems. I had 2 sets of original 20s rim for it but refused to pay 120 CAD everytime. Since as others said, the 4th Gen auto learns, it should be easy. I plan to have two sets of rims for my 25AE. Original 18' for winter and my old Venza's 20' with TPMS for summer time. I sold the Venza but kept a set of rims and tires.
While I don't endorse snarky remarks, I know where Geezer is coming from. He's a bit old and gotten crotchety as the years have gone by, but he offers a wealth of knowledge and has your best interests in mind. So I'll give him a pass. Today only....
OK, so let's get into this.
First off, laudable on the winter tires. This is the first time in over 20 years that I've let ours go. I put them on both of our kids cars, but as we don't have a compelling reason to venture out on bad weather days I'm looking at possibly going with an All-Weather tire like the Michelin CrossClimate2. Hopefully I won't live to regret the delay this season.
Other than the warnings, there is currently no interaction with the rest of the vehicle safety systems. Still, I highly encourage the use of TPMS.
We have an Accutire digital in each car, and I have an air hose reel on the ceiling of my garage. But I haven't yet mastered the art of running alongside my moving vehicle to visually monitor the state of all 4 tires while driving. So when a piece of road debris sliced a tire, it was TPMS on the Sienna that gave my wife ample warning of a reasonably rapid deflation and allowed her to pull onto the shoulder of the interstate before the tire was fully flat. Nice! And it kept me from driving on a near flat RR tire with a nail in it when I came out of a restaurant in the dark. Weekly monitoring of your tires can't protect you from the unexpected. That's the job of an electronic monitor.
The Gen-4 Sienna has a digital dash display for the first time, and thankfully the system designers stepped up to a self-learning REGISTRATION system that should recognize new sensors in use that have the correct protocol written (PROGRAMMED) to them. So if the system works as I believe it should, you will NOT need a handheld tool to collect the hex ID's of the sensors to be uploaded (registered) to the TPMS computer thru the OBD port.
I'll need to double check on sensor options (I have that squirreled away somewhere). Because they are relatively new, the options on a set of 4 new sensors are a bit limited. If anyone else has data, that would be helpful.
OK, so let's get into this.
First off, laudable on the winter tires. This is the first time in over 20 years that I've let ours go. I put them on both of our kids cars, but as we don't have a compelling reason to venture out on bad weather days I'm looking at possibly going with an All-Weather tire like the Michelin CrossClimate2. Hopefully I won't live to regret the delay this season.
Other than the warnings, there is currently no interaction with the rest of the vehicle safety systems. Still, I highly encourage the use of TPMS.
We have an Accutire digital in each car, and I have an air hose reel on the ceiling of my garage. But I haven't yet mastered the art of running alongside my moving vehicle to visually monitor the state of all 4 tires while driving. So when a piece of road debris sliced a tire, it was TPMS on the Sienna that gave my wife ample warning of a reasonably rapid deflation and allowed her to pull onto the shoulder of the interstate before the tire was fully flat. Nice! And it kept me from driving on a near flat RR tire with a nail in it when I came out of a restaurant in the dark. Weekly monitoring of your tires can't protect you from the unexpected. That's the job of an electronic monitor.
The Gen-4 Sienna has a digital dash display for the first time, and thankfully the system designers stepped up to a self-learning REGISTRATION system that should recognize new sensors in use that have the correct protocol written (PROGRAMMED) to them. So if the system works as I believe it should, you will NOT need a handheld tool to collect the hex ID's of the sensors to be uploaded (registered) to the TPMS computer thru the OBD port.
I'll need to double check on sensor options (I have that squirreled away somewhere). Because they are relatively new, the options on a set of 4 new sensors are a bit limited. If anyone else has data, that would be helpful.
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Sensors for the gen 4 Sienna should be widely available - even in Bean Town. Gosh, I just bought name brand Dill 315MHz model 5001 "universal" sensors for my new Porsche's winter tires at Costco for $43.09 each. It's a fairly rare car but the sensors were on their shelf. Those sensors come pre-programmed for most popular vehicles. They weren't preprogrammed for my Porsche model but it took a Costco tire tech only a couple of minutes per sensor to program at no additional cost.
You're obviously not getting accurate information. Yes, if you buy sensors from Tire Rack that are not pre-programmed for the gen 4 Sienna, then you will need to take them to a local tire shop or Toyota dealer to have it done. DO NOT DO THAT! If you can't buy preprogrammed sensors online buy them locally and have the local seller program them for you.
Your owners manual contains very detailed information on how to automatically link new TPMS to your Sienna but, again, they have to be sensors that are properly programmed. Your owners manual also contains detailed information on how to view all the tire pressures on one of the in-dash displays - sure beats using a tire gauge but you should still use one when correcting pressures with a tire pump.
Owners manuals can be a bear when it comes to finding information. I downloaded your owners manual from the owners section of the Toyota: Manuals & Warranties | Toyota Owners
Download the owners manual yourself and search for a phrase such as "tire pressure". Or get the one out of your glove compartment and RTFM. RTFM is a fun technical term often used by those, like me, who wrote instructional manuals for a living.
You're welcome. It's one of the services I offer. Try to have some fun here on this forum.
Sounds like a good goal for you.
It looks like TPMS Sensor - Toyota (42607-0E030) is still the current part, and I see them for around $64 each from Toyota dealers.
Amazon says these are compatible:
The other option is a universal programmable (comes blank, you write the Sienna protocol).
I have an Autel tool (TS508) and it seems to indicate it can make 2021 compatible sensors although the listing is confusing. I guess it's time to do a software update and see if it resolves.
(EDIT: Updated to software V 1.35 and it now supports 2021-2022 315MHz 42607-0E030 equivalent programming of blank Autel MX sensors.)
Schrader/Sensata sensors list compatibility. But you'd have to find a garage that has a tool to program them.
Amazon says these are compatible:
The other option is a universal programmable (comes blank, you write the Sienna protocol).
I have an Autel tool (TS508) and it seems to indicate it can make 2021 compatible sensors although the listing is confusing. I guess it's time to do a software update and see if it resolves.
(EDIT: Updated to software V 1.35 and it now supports 2021-2022 315MHz 42607-0E030 equivalent programming of blank Autel MX sensors.)
Schrader/Sensata sensors list compatibility. But you'd have to find a garage that has a tool to program them.
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Porsche??? What happened to the Corvette on order?
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I declined Corvette allocations repeatedly due to it never getting important safety features, e.g. automatic emergency braking, adaptive cruise control, auto-dimming headlights - there's a long list of shortcomings. I had been waiting for a Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo (station wagon!) allocation since early Spring but it couldn't be built like I wanted due to parts shortages when my allocation came up in August. I then noticed a nicely equipped in-stock Cayenne SUV in the dealer's inventory. It has the safety features the Corvette was missing and can even do modest self driving. It's fun scaring my wife when I let it drive itself on twisty rural roads! I've got an appointment for early tomorrow morning to have its LED matrix headlights re-coded to function as in Europe - high beam headlights on all the time when over 37 mph and beams continually "shaped" to prevent blinding oncoming and preceding vehicle drivers. I sold the Sienna to a friend the same day I took delivery of the Porsche and have "visiting rights". The Cayenne is remarkably fun to drive for what it is and is of course far more practical than a Corvette as a daily driver. The Sienna was wonderful during the years we needed it and my friend likes it a lot.
My guess would be yes, as I've not seen TPMS tied into any other functional system of a vehicle.
I've seen on Honda's that you cannot turn of TC with a TPMS error. That's why Im trying to get clarification.
Interesting... I hadn't hear that before. Sounds like you need someone with a Gen-4 to give the definitive answer.
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Haha. I told you nobody wants to spend $300 for a tire gauge. I just bought an Eastwood mig welder for $200. It all adds up! I just spent $100 for pizza and wings at chuckecheeses. That's nuts!You risk being hunted down by responsible people and bitch slapped.
Come on! TPMS is inexpensive and can save you from getting into dangerous and inconvenient situations. You don't even have to do any programming since your gen 4 Sienna automatically learns new TPMS ID's.
TPMS is required on vehicles that came with it. No responsible tire shop will install tires without TPMS on your Sienna.
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Haha don't mind Geezer. I've been guilt tripping him about owning a Porsche. Btw I saw a guy on craigslist in Boston selling Blizzaks and wheels for like $300. It looks like it would fit. I thought about it but I seem to be doing fine as is....and I kinda want lightweight Enkei Wheels from tirerack...
and you don't need the TPMS but it is very useful. I got winter tires and wheels without the TPMS option from Tirerack on my Prius.
and you don't need the TPMS but it is very useful. I got winter tires and wheels without the TPMS option from Tirerack on my Prius.
I had these installed - and they were registered, and showed the PSI on my van.
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