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Yes even when the engine is cool no the air conditioner is not on defrost or Is on position. The temperature switch at the bottom of the radiator reads all zero out when cold Using my multi meter to measure ohms. and if I unplug it fans stay on but shift to low speed. The temperature sending unit next to the thermostat I have replaced As a good measure effort just because of how nasty it all was Is when I replaced the thermostat. the temperature sending unit itself I get no change fans when I unplugged it. I also jumped The thermal sending unit next to the thermostat And the fans did not go to regular function. I did jump the AC high pressure switch switch which also had no effect on the fans. I played Musical chairs and rotated all the relays which also had no effect. A little bit of back history about this man and when I 1st 1st bought it it worked fine and came on it the appropriate temperature and then turned off when no longer needed. I did a timing belt, water pump, plugs, coils, Thermostat coolant temperature sender next to the thermostat and brand new radiator. The Van was in limp mode when I started It had a serious loss of power. However now it's at full power runs good. Been doing most all of this off of reading the forums and a whole lot of can do attitude and sometimes a little set electric is my weakness. I'd rather replace a whole engine rather to mess with an electric wiring harness! Anyone so if you could please advise thank you very much