IIRC, that's the standard ICE model @ 176hp, not the 2.5L hybrid that came out in 2016 @ 196hp. The Sienna hybrid 2.5L combo makes 245hp.I have 2015 Rav4 and the 2.5 engine is more than sufficient for this frame.
Comments from a majority of owners indicate slow acceleration, especially with a full load of people and cargo aboard.
Just curious of owners of the 2021+ Gen 4 owners of your experience with this engine.
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I remember results of a public opinion poll in the U.S. (the topic is irrelevant) where the first question was about the topic: "do you think.... " ? The majority answered 'yes'. The second question was " do you think you are majority or minority?" The majority answered 'minority'....
Comments from a majority of owners indicate slow acceleration...
+1.There are many threads here on this topic and it is rare to see anyone complaining about power or acceleration. 0-60 in under 8 seconds is faster than a Mustang or Camaro from not long ago. Top speed of over 115 mph is faster than I'll ever go with my van. We cruise fully loaded and with a top box and/or bikes on the back over big mountains without slowing down. This is simply not an issue from my perspective, especially balanced against the excellent fuel economy.
Not so much worried about the horsepower, I'm more concerned about the 4cyl in the Sienna being able to pull that large frame the Sienna has become.My opinion, is that if you are using it as a tow vehicle, then its a concern. If you never tow anything, dont worry about it.
New Chevy Silverado's (1/2 ton pickup) come with a 4 cylinder. They cost less than the V8, have sufficient power for almost everything except towing heavy loads, then you need the V8. The 2.7 liter 4 cyl, tho pretty much "snubbed" by the people who mostly buy trucks, will tow 9500 pounds and has 430 foot pounds of torque. Its my opinion both the 4 cyl Silverado, and the 4 cyl hybrid Sienna have been unfairly criticized by "old schoolers" that insist on having big motors.
Someone raced a third generation V6 Sienna against a 4th generation 4 cyl hybrid, and the hybrid won in 0 to 60.
The Sienna hybrid has an electric motor (also) which contributes to the hp, and, significantly, electric motors get their power now, while Gas engines need to wait until 4000 or more RPM to achieve the max hp. So, the Sienna hybrid "comes off the line" very very well against the V6 ICE engine.
If "horsepower" is important to you consider a Corvette. However, like many/most Sienna owners, we want to be able to haul many people and or cargo, and get 36 mpg, and are not concerned with taking her to the race track.
I have a 2023 Sienna and have found the hp to be adequate for all my needs, "except", I can not reccommend a Sienna for towing other than extremely light duty towing. Dont use it to tow your camper. You will be disappointed towing a camper up long hills (you will likely also be similarly disappointed with a V6 for towing heavy loads up long hills. ).
Its perfect to get groceries, and I have used mine for several trips (a total of 8400 miles) and have no issues with horsepower. I do have issues with Toyota not getting my second key, and, trying to find a new or almost new 4th gen Sienna for MSRP or below. Im tired of having almost 50 grand in a car, and will be selling my 2023 XLE all wheel drive still under warranty and new condition soon for money reasons..I just dont need to have a 50,000 vehicle to haul 7 people when I have no children at home, and can get by on a 2024 Trax that has heated seats, heated Steering wheel for HALF of what the Sienna costs.
"mini van" buyers prioritize horsepower pretty much dead last. Im in that group. I mean, gee, I do have minimum standards, I would like to be able to keep up with, and pass, a glacier that moves an inch per year. But a smaller vehicle lighter in weight, with similar horsepower will feel like it has both more horses and better fuel economy, as you are pushing less weight.Not so much worried about the horsepower, I'm more concerned about the 4cyl in the Sienna being able to pull that large frame the Sienna has become.
Again, 0-60 of under 8 seconds - that's way more than adequate. Why are you "worried"?Not so much worried about the horsepower, I'm more concerned about the 4cyl in the Sienna being able to pull that large frame the Sienna has become.
Heat requires the engine. It operates the same way as any other vehicle, using the heated coolant (by the engine) to heat the cabin. Now, you can plug in a less than 1500 watt heater to the invertor for heat, however you will still need to be in "ready" mode (engine on), for anything to run for very long. The HVB is not a large one like you would find in a pure EV. The engine will cycle on and off to keep the HVB charged. It doesn't run very long. Reports are that a gallon or two of gas is used overnight to run the A/C. The heater may use more, as you have to keep the engine hot..... AC and Heat can all run electrically with the engine off. This adds additional reliability to the vehicle with less parts to wear down.
| Kia Carnival | Toyota Sienna | Honda Odyssey | Chrysler Pacifica | Chrysler PacHy | |
| 0-30 mph | 3.4 seconds | 3.2 | 3.4 | 3.1 | 3.8 |
| 0-60 mph | 8.4 | 8.2 | 8.1 | 8.0 | 8.3 |
| 45-65 mph | 4.7 | 4.5 | 5.1 | 5.6 | 4.8 |
| 1/4 mi/speed | 16.5/90mph | 16.4/89mph | 16.4/89mph | 16.2/90mph | 16.5/91mph |
Obligatory “Itowmyracecarjustfine”The whole issue for me was, not the capability to go from 0-60 as some of the posts state but does the I4 have the capability to pull the larger frame of the new Sienna. Drag racing was never the desire or intent.
power is fine, its a minivan, not a sports car. it can get up and out of its own way just fine, and while it won't tow a huge camper, it can reliably town 1500 pounds with a full load inside without too much issue. I run mine loaded all day, every single day, and it never feels like it has a lack of power on tap if I need it, and torque is instant thanks to the electric motors able to kick in quickly.The whole issue for me was, not the capability to go from 0-60 as some of the posts state but does the I4 have the capability to pull the larger frame of the new Sienna. Drag racing was never the desire or intent.
