[shenns]

Toyota Confirms Grand Highlander SUV with Hybrid Max Powertrain

It seems likely the new three-row crossover will fit between the current Highlander and larger Sequoia SUVs, and it'll make its full debut February 8.

www.caranddriver.com

Been waiting for this announcement the for 2 years! Had first dibs to the 1st batch of sequoia but the 3rd row was disappointing vs previous generation. Got lucky on a 25th edition couple weeks ago.

What do you guys think? Much bigger or more luxury? The Lexus equivalent will be the Lexus TX i believe.

 

[Davidoff65]

I think Toyota missed the opportunity to really compete in the 3 row segment when they redesigned the Highlander. This should have been the Highlander with max space and cargo capacity from the get go. I'd probably opted for it instead of the Sienna. Curious to see how they'll package it.

 

[2022SiennaLE]

2.4 inline 4 making 340 horse?
Put those electric motors in the Sienna and we will have the ultimate Van.
The best of both worlds.

 

[shenns]

I think Toyota missed the opportunity to really compete in the 3 row segment when they redesigned the Highlander. This should have been the Highlander with max space and cargo capacity from the get go. I'd probably opted for it instead of the Sienna. Curious to see how they'll package it.

Yeap they did. Highlander sales dipped this year. Kia palisade has record sales and the 3rd row is like a cave compared to the highlander(not that I will buy a kia)

 

[Jetstreamblue]

Yeap they did. Highlander sales dipped this year. Kia palisade has record sales and the 3rd row is like a cave compared to the highlander(not that I will buy a kia)

Highlander sales were definitely supply constrained, so I wouldn't read too much into it. Same with the Kia for that matter. All the sales numbers are pure reflection of who could produce the most cars. Maybe in 2023 we'll start to see numbers again that reflect consumer demand.

 

[Chubbysumo]

Highlander sales were definitely supply constrained, so I wouldn't read too much into it. Same with the Kia for that matter. All the sales numbers are pure reflection of who could produce the most cars. Maybe in 2023 we'll start to see numbers again that reflect consumer demand.

most certainly supply constrained. if they have the same features or better than the current highlander platinum, then we will be trading in our hihy plat for a grand highlander. it must have the rear view mirror cam tho, that is certainly a must have feature, along with the 1500w inverter, because that plug is a lot more useful than you ever though it could be.

 

[caeser]

2.4 inline 4 making 340 horse?
Put those electric motors in the Sienna and we will have the ultimate Van.
The best of both worlds.

I rather have the mpg. The low spec crown is like 36mpg but the powerful one with 300+ hp is like 28mpg.

 

[starlightmica]

via C&D

 

[Davidoff65]

I hope it looks like a big RAV4 rather than a longer Highlander and significantly more spacious too.

 

[Davidoff65]

Someone posted a video about what it could look like. I'll wait and see when Toyota does the big reveal.

 

[pamhar]

via C&D

Well at least the covers will protect the awful Toyota thin paint.

Wonder if those overalls come in Sienna size?

 

[Chubbysumo]

Wonder if those overalls come in Sienna size?

at one point, im sure they had the gen4 sienna under these covers too.

 

[starlightmica]

via autoblog

 

[Dimitrij]

2.4 inline 4 making 340 horse?
Put those electric motors in the Sienna and we will have the ultimate Van.
The best of both worlds.

I am not familiar with the 340 hp "Hybrid Max" powertrain, but from what I have read it doesn't have a remarkable fuel economy.

I think Toyota missed the opportunity to really compete in the 3 row segment when they redesigned the Highlander. This should have been the Highlander with max space and cargo capacity from the get go. I'd probably opted for it instead of the Sienna. Curious to see how they'll package it.

To get a roomier, and therefore more competitive in the segment Highlander, all Toyota had to do was to shrink the nose by 6" and stretch the rest of the car by the same 6". Same footprint, presumably no extra weight penalty = no need for a more powerful engine in the hybrid version.

Even better, give the Sienna a stronger rear suspension, possibly with a 1.5" lift.

Never mind, Toyota these days is very much into enormouse noses, so we'll just have to wait for the "grand nasal fashion" to fizzle out.

 

[pamhar]

I am not familiar with the 340 hp "Hybrid Max" powertrain, but from what I have read it doesn't have a remarkable fuel economy.



To get a roomier, and therefore more competitive in the segment Highlander, all Toyota had to do was to shrink the nose by 6" and stretch the rest of the car by the same 6". Same footprint, presumably no extra weight penalty = no need for a more powerful engine in the hybrid version.

Even better, give the Sienna a stronger rear suspension, possibly with a 1.5" lift.

Never mind, Toyota these days is very much into enormouse noses, so we'll just have to wait for the "grand nasal fashion" to fizzle out.

Yeah, the rav4 got a bigger nose when they changed styling. Same for Sienna.

Seems to be a trend thing as drove by a 2023 CRV last week and the nose looked long like Rav4 or Tiguan.

 

[Dimitrij]

Yeah, the rav4 got a bigger nose when they changed styling. Same for Sienna.

Seems to be a trend thing as drove by a 2023 CRV last week and it the nose looked long like Rav4 or Tiguan.

I think that the Gen 4 Sienna's nose appears longer because the lower edge of the windshield was kind of pushed backwards, so the cabin floor space wasn't encroached upon. Toyota found a different, but an equally ingenious way of limiting the utility of the cargo area.