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Motor mounts / rotational travel amount 06LE 182k miles

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I recently installed an OE dog bone (torque strut mount?) and one argument as to why this mount goes bad is that the other engine mounts are failing or have failed and contributed to its demise. In the past I had an Odyssey that had a failed engine mount and I suspected so from a thud sound when moving off from a stop. I confirmed this by putting the van in drive, foot on the brakes and pumping the accelerator pedal briskly. I could definitely see the engine jump. So I tried this with the Sienna and there is no "jumping ' of the engine at all, just a rotational movement towards the firewall. It was during this that I could actually see how much flex there is in the dog bone. If this were normal then it is a "wow" moment. I decided to measure the amount of travel so I had a friend pump the accelerator pedal while I took the reading. It was about 1/2 an inch. Is this reasonable? There were no visible leaks in any of the mounts nor were there any clunky or similar noises during the rotation of the engine.
So why the interest? Well, the van has a slight wobble/tremor/ shaking upon moving off and from what I have seen on the forum is that it could be engine mounts , wheel bearings or axle shafts. The van has been doing this for a few years now but I lived with it. The front end is tight! Recent OE control arm , ball joints , steering rack and struts , new tires and recent dealer alignment. I am inclined to rule the front end as not the reason for the situation. There are no growling noises from the bearings at all even though I really should do the 12 and , 6 , 3 and 9 push pull on the front tires. The axles are Carquest brand, new from Advanced auto. The drivers side has about 32k miles and the passenger side has about 15k miles. They are not clicking during tight turns but that does not rule out the possibility that one could at least be bad ( drivers side?). Since the the axles can be returned for a free replacement I am inclined to do the drivers side which was installed 5 years ago.
In any case, if someone with an 04-06 would be kind enough to see how much of a rotational travel they get with theirs under the testing procedure I described above I would be grateful. Then I would have something to compare to.
 
#3 ·
Reading this sure sound familiar to me,

If you accelerate hard from a standstill to lets say 20mph is the wobble sensation worse then if you lightly accelerate from a standstill to 20 mph?

Is the wobble sensation feel like a side to side wobble in your body when it happens? and then goes away after you reach 10 mph or so? and when all this is going on do you feel or see the steering wheel wobble ?

Sure sounds like maybe your inner cv joint tripod housings are worn.

Had to deal with symptoms like you are explaining a few times in my life on other vehicles.

Hope this helps :)
 
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Thank you for your response. I need to do both a hard / light accelerate comparison. The steering wheel does not wobble...at least not yet!
 
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To add some sort of closure to this thread I installed genuine Toyata axles and the wobble/ vibration I was experiencing is gone. I also renewed the motor mounts and the engine travel when tested is now minimal with the new mounts. Two were bad.
 
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Yes! I replaced the sway bar bushings with oems. The sway bar links were still good . They were not knocking at all but the boots were all torn up and over the years I have been adding grease to them . I decided to change them out( I still have them) and installed a pair of heavy duty Mevotech from Rock Auto.
 
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In any case, if someone with an 04-06 would be kind enough to see how much of a rotational travel they get with theirs under the testing procedure I described above I would be grateful. Then I would have something to compare to.
Just wanted to include my findings with the new oems mounts installed recently. The rearward travel of the engine with the new mounts is now negligible , actually about 1/8th of an inch with the same testing procedure.
 
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