Other bad news about repair. Replace the oil cooler tubes and rubber hoses if you haven't already done so. They are on the front of the engine. Old style uses rubber hoses which will age and crack then drain your entire crankcase of oil without you knowing. If you are on the interstate or highway you will drain and cook your engine in about 2 minutes and the oil light won't come on till it's too late. The new replacement removes the rubber hoses and replaces them with stainless steel tubes. There is no recall or extended warranty for this repair. Toyota has abandoned the owners with this devastating event and its repair. Be warned and aware. Sorry to all. :surprise:
Oil Cooler Failure (no recall) Beware
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Again, Warranty Enhancement Program ZE2 does extend the warranty on all 2007 thru 2011 Sienna vans with the old style hybrid (steel & rubber lines). Owner notifications letters were mailed in 2014/2015. At this point coverage is for 10 years from new vehicle purchase date or up to 150k miles. Engine damage is also covered.
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Unfortunately during pandemic the car was driven less. My leak happened 56 days after the 10 yr warranty expired and Toyota won't reimburse. I have 89k on my 2011 Sienna SE
Sorry to hear! Hope your engine is still working good and not ruined! Happened to me a few weeks ago
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Yes, I'm lucky. How about you? Please share the tweet. Sounds like Toyota doesn't care since I don't have much followers.Sorry to hear! Hope your engine is still working good and not ruined! Happened to me a few weeks ago
do have any other info about this being a campain in Canada? is it over?
recently the local montreal toyota dealership quoted $700 for parts and $300 labor for replacing this with the upgraded part.
I saw the warranty enhancement but the vans i'm looking at don't qualify. I was hoping in Canada this issue would be considered a recall as all the vans have the tow package.
I believe the oil cooler line fix from Toyota is only valid for 10 years from first use in USA. Not sure about Canada.
I'd find a good independent mechanic familiar with Toyotas to do the work, not an official dealer. I paid less than half of what your quote was, in US $. I believe my mechanic charged me roughly $400 for parts and labor. They even did a pretty good job cleaning the oil everywhere. This is also in expensive california.
i'll definitely look around for a good mechanic with better pricing. for some reason all the canadian sienna's come equipped with the tow package/dreaded oil cooler so I was going to attempt getting it covered by the dealer.
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My dealer put on one today....289 for parts and labor....well worth it!
There is confusion of the vvt oil line with the oil cooler piping.
My oil cooler is leaking and I can dirvie it; leaks are likely through
the two rubber elbows.
I want to avoid the grief of replacing the cooler piping assembly,
and take my chances on replacing the rubber elbows.
Does anyone know the part numbers for the two elbows ??
(maybe I can't find them cuz they only number the assembly,
but I thought a member bought them but decided to install the assembly)
(I have rarely been as angry as I was when I learned that
the Toyota dealership service I used for 4 years knew that
my 2010 (92,000 )might fail like this, and no verbal or written warning
was made.) (fortunately my vvt oil line is steel without an elbow).
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My oil cooler is leaking and I can dirvie it; leaks are likely through
the two rubber elbows.
I want to avoid the grief of replacing the cooler piping assembly,
and take my chances on replacing the rubber elbows.
Does anyone know the part numbers for the two elbows ??
(maybe I can't find them cuz they only number the assembly,
but I thought a member bought them but decided to install the assembly)
(I have rarely been as angry as I was when I learned that
the Toyota dealership service I used for 4 years knew that
my 2010 (92,000 )might fail like this, and no verbal or written warning
was made.) (fortunately my vvt oil line is steel without an elbow).
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Please do, Currently dealing with Toyota not wanting to budge.
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Hello,
Noob here. So my ‘08 Sienna had this issue but I was able to get it “fixed.”
My van dropped all it’s oil a total of three times due to this issue. First repair was a local shop and they replaced the Vvt oil line. $500. Second repair was the same shop but replacing the oil cooler line. Another $600. Then I find out about the recall and call up the dealership. They tell me, “No problem, we’ll just replace the repaired parts with our warranty, etc.” Ok, so we get the Toyota warranty and parts, yadda yadda.
Two weeks down the road the engine starts sounding like a banshee hammering kitchen pans and, sure enough, I know what I’ll find under the hood. Oil on every surface, steaming and smoking all down the block and under, leaving a cartoon slime trail down the street.
So NOW, I take the van back to the dealership and they say, “Well, it doesn’t seem to be the same issue which we warranties. But, you’re going to have to replace the camshaft. Entirely. It’s been damaged.” $5,640.
Now my question is: has anyone had luck getting Toyota to own up to ENGINE DAMAGE associated with this repair? Obviously the dealership is bullshitting me (pardon my French) about what caused the issue. As far as I’m concerned, Toyota’s little white lie toasted my engine.
For reference, I’m the original owner. 150,640 miles. Ran like a dream until it didn’t. Regular oil changes at 4,000 or so (I know it’s a little high). No other mechanical issues ever with this vehicle.
One little oil spill, and I’m out a vehicle which should have had 5 good more years.
Has anybody heard of Toyota dealing with an issue like this?
thanks, all!
Noob here. So my ‘08 Sienna had this issue but I was able to get it “fixed.”
My van dropped all it’s oil a total of three times due to this issue. First repair was a local shop and they replaced the Vvt oil line. $500. Second repair was the same shop but replacing the oil cooler line. Another $600. Then I find out about the recall and call up the dealership. They tell me, “No problem, we’ll just replace the repaired parts with our warranty, etc.” Ok, so we get the Toyota warranty and parts, yadda yadda.
Two weeks down the road the engine starts sounding like a banshee hammering kitchen pans and, sure enough, I know what I’ll find under the hood. Oil on every surface, steaming and smoking all down the block and under, leaving a cartoon slime trail down the street.
So NOW, I take the van back to the dealership and they say, “Well, it doesn’t seem to be the same issue which we warranties. But, you’re going to have to replace the camshaft. Entirely. It’s been damaged.” $5,640.
Now my question is: has anyone had luck getting Toyota to own up to ENGINE DAMAGE associated with this repair? Obviously the dealership is bullshitting me (pardon my French) about what caused the issue. As far as I’m concerned, Toyota’s little white lie toasted my engine.
For reference, I’m the original owner. 150,640 miles. Ran like a dream until it didn’t. Regular oil changes at 4,000 or so (I know it’s a little high). No other mechanical issues ever with this vehicle.
One little oil spill, and I’m out a vehicle which should have had 5 good more years.
Has anybody heard of Toyota dealing with an issue like this?
thanks, all!
No sense in even talking about recourse until we know for sure EXACTLY WHAT FAILED THIS TIME. Did the yellow band rubber segment on the VVTi line go again? Did they take off your new metal Oil Cooler assembly and put on an old metal/rubber hybrid assembly? Did they not tighten the bolts and a gasket blew out? Did they not install the oil filter housing correctly? Did a front or rear crankshaft seal blow out (which happened to me....)?
If necessary, ask for access to the van for an independent auditor. You must have a root cause before you can expect corrective action.
If necessary, ask for access to the van for an independent auditor. You must have a root cause before you can expect corrective action.
My VVTi hose is leaking - 2010 Sienna limiting - anyone know if the power steering pump needs to be removed to change this hose . . . will TOYOTA fix under extended warranty?
Yes, you will need to remove the power steering pump to access the bolts that hold the lower vvti line. As for warranty you should call them.
Thanks
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No recalls or service campaigns for my 2010 Sienna Limited (Prod Date: 06/03/2009).
Also called & spoke to an "agent", nothing . . . even though they did replace the engine oil cooler rubber hose w/steel pipe back in 3/2019.
Supposedly, the VVTi hose is steel according to the posts in siennachat / toyotanation.
There is a leak per my mechanic but I need to remove the foam cover & start in. Need to remove bolts of power steering pump to get to the VVTi hose bolts.
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The limited service campaign on the rubber vvti line was extended to 12-31-2021...
-Mike
Just took my 2010 Sienna (9/2009 build date) in to have this done. Read up on here about this problem, checked, and yep they're rubber. Unfortunately it's two years past the extended 10 year service window. Cost is $464 out the door. More than I'd like to spend on preventative maintenance, but better than gambling on the 12 year old rubber hoses to still be good. Also it's cold and raining and I've got other work to do.
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