Just traded in our 2008 Odyssey for a 2021 Sienna. We've been a Honda family (still have our 2005 Pilot) and loved our Odyssey, but we thought the Sienna was the better van for us. The gas mileage was the kicker for me along with the cool rear view mirror/screen. We have to travel for holidays, and I like being able to see out the back. There is so much technology on the thing, and like Honda, Toyota produces a high quality product. The hybrid didn’t scare me since Toyota has so much experience with it. Hope I’m right!!