[ex-v8]

Trim: LE with Plus package
Color: White
Extras : Floor mats
Price : MSRP (NO MARKUPS) + TTL
OTD Price: Tad below 45k

Features I'm missing:

Proximity key for lock/unlock (miss this a lot)​

Power lift gate​

Passenger power seats​

Power is adequate, MPG makes me happy. I wanted a XLE - 7 seater. Having a small bit of buyer's remorse. Everything happened so fast, hoping this feeling will get better in a couple of days

 

[Sienna9816]

Congratulations!! It doesn't exist without pictures .

Please check out the Today I Learned thread if you haven't already.

 

[panamaplatinum]

congratulations!!!! i was so happy when mine came in- have fun with it we really like ours, it has def grown on us!!!!

 

[Stuart Pidassle]

Congrats

 

[pamhar]

In this market be glad you got one... not easy to get exact trim wanted... hopefully gets better sooner then later.

 

[Jetstreamblue]

Congrats! Of the things you miss listed, the power lift gate is relatively easy to fix aftermarket. It is one of the mods I have planned to do when I finally get my LE.

 

[20swrt]

7 seats is ok if you have 2 kids. 8 seater is better if you have 3 kids.

 

[panamaplatinum]

btw i was just at stokes toyota hilton head and the wait time for them is over a year for a sienna, hard to belive

 

[slk]

We settled for a 22 Sienna LE AWD in December 2021 because the XLE we wanted wasn’t available. Paid $38k and regretted it immediately. The lack of basic things we’ve been used to having like lumbar support and homelink. A year later we got the call for a 2023 XLE AWD so we jumped on it. They gave us $36k and we got the XLE for msrp around $45k. The LE had 18,000 miles and had been rear ended so I was surprised they put it on the lot for just under $45k and it didn’t take long to sell.

 

[Broncofan]

Wow. That's resale value! You drove the car 18,000 miles, wrecked it, and got just $2000 under what you paid. Curiosity...how much do you think it cost to fix it? It probably cost more than 2000 to get it fixed.

 

[benpittsburgh]

I've got the same situation. I was happy to get a 2023 LE a week and a half ago (at MSRP and just a few extras), but I'm really bummed it doesn't have a proximity key. I was looking for the lumbar button the other day, and I can't believe it's not there either. But these are the times we live in, and I wanted that hybrid.

 

[ex-v8]

If you guys know an easy fix for proximity key, please share!

I came across this -

which seems like an easy thing to add.

Any experience with this product? This is available on Amazon

 

[Broncofan]

Ok, so, now we know the truth. Toyota could have suppled 2 key fobs, but they were too cheap to provide a third party fob, and instead makes us wait..and wait..and wait..for the key fob, so they can sell us ours. If the chips are available to sell key fobs, which they apparently are, then the chips are available to make Toyota key fobs.

 

[slk]

Wow. That's resale value! You drove the car 18,000 miles, wrecked it, and got just $2000 under what you paid. Curiosity...how much do you think it cost to fix it? It probably cost more than 2000 to get it fixed.

I was pleawith the trade in value. The other guys insurance paid about $9000 for the repairs. To me it seemed like just the bumper cover and sensors.

 

[Broncofan]

Body work is Amazingly expensive now a days. One of the problems is PAINT. My son and I bought a minor wrecked car and repaired it. Of course, I thought oh, 50 bucks for the paint...no way.

There were about 8 different kinds of paint products, to get it to match the factory. Not Just primer, and paint. I dont remember them all, but he put that paint on like they said, and it looked great. But the paint products alone, for one fender was around $450 bucks, and that was like 10 years ago. Yea, they can cut corners, and it looks it, too. Maybe not now, but later on down the road. $450 about ten years ago, would be like 1200 today, since most things, have tripled, many in the past year. I recall buying house paint for 9 bucks a gallon, now its like 30 or 40 for the good stuff.

 

[Therbi]

Ok, so, now we know the truth. Toyota could have suppled 2 key fobs, but they were too cheap to provide a third party fob, and instead makes us wait..and wait..and wait..for the key fob, so they can sell us ours. If the chips are available to sell key fobs, which they apparently are, then the chips are available to make Toyota key fobs.

Thats not a Toyota OE remote, its aftermarket. If you look at the title of that link it says Fitcamx remote. If you scroll down it says right on their page customizable logo. You could have it display Ferrari if you wanted it to.
The logistics of selling people new vehicles with only 1 remote now, then having to add a second later will be huge for Toyota, and not cost effective. Not sure how one would think they're doing this because they're cheap and this somehow saves them money. It would be quite the opposite.

Smart Key Remote Control X-500/ X-600

✅The smart key can be installed when the following two conditions are met at the same time:1. The car can be started without inserting the original car key into the ignition hole.2. The original car has a start engine button. 【Compatible with Push Start Engine】This Fitcamx smart remote car key...

fitcamx.com

 

[slk]

Body work is Amazingly expensive now a days. One of the problems is PAINT. My son and I bought a minor wrecked car and repaired it. Of course, I thought oh, 50 bucks for the paint...no way.

There were about 8 different kinds of paint products, to get it to match the factory. Not Just primer, and paint. I dont remember them all, but he put that paint on like they said, and it looked great. But the paint products alone, for one fender was around $450 bucks, and that was like 10 years ago. Yea, they can cut corners, and it looks it, too. Maybe not now, but later on down the road. $450 about ten years ago, would be like 1200 today, since most things, have tripled, many in the past year. I recall buying house paint for 9 bucks a gallon, now its like 30 or 40 for the good stuff.

On my 2006 Sienna I hit a deer late one Saturday night. The front bumper cover was the only damage so I ordered a replacement from eBay for $200 that was already painted to match the factory color. It arrived by Friday and I was back in business within a week.
I was looking for that seller to see if he had the replacement for the 2022 but it was too new.

 

[20swrt]

Yeah - car repair shops are still full of cars waiting for parts. Especially if its needs a headlight or tail light. Most insurers just total the car rather than pay for a rental car. Im sure insurance costs will double here very soon.

 

[Jetstreamblue]

Thats not a Toyota OE remote, its aftermarket. If you look at the title of that link it says Fitcamx remote. If you scroll down it says right on their page customizable logo. You could have it display Ferrari if you wanted it to.
The logistics of selling people new vehicles with only 1 remote now, then having to add a second later will be huge for Toyota, and not cost effective. Not sure how one would think they're doing this because they're cheap and this somehow saves them money. It would be quite the opposite.

Smart Key Remote Control X-500/ X-600

✅The smart key can be installed when the following two conditions are met at the same time:1. The car can be started without inserting the original car key into the ignition hole.2. The original car has a start engine button. 【Compatible with Push Start Engine】This Fitcamx smart remote car key...

fitcamx.com

Exactly what you said, purposely giving only one key makes no sense at all. German brands were already doing the same due to shortages last year months before Toyota started doing it too.

To add to Therbi's post, if you look at the link, using the Fixcamx key requires disassembling and stealing the chip from your original key. Buying this doesn't give you an extra key, it replaces the one you have already. So having these aftermarket ones doesn't even say anything at all about availability of chips.

 

[Jetstreamblue]

If you guys know an easy fix for proximity key, please share!

I came across this -

which seems like an easy thing to add.

Any experience with this product? This is available on Amazon

Pretty neat product and easy way to add proximity locking/unlocking. I do have a few concerns:
1. There's no spot to store the hidden metal key from the original, so you won't have it with you in case the key dies and you need the physical backup.
2. It seems to have hard programed on the screen soft keys for only 4 buttons: lock/unlock/trunk/extra button. That means there's no way to operate the power sliding doors from this remote (well, you could connect the extra button to one of the doors). Seems like a big missed opportunity not have fully customization soft buttons. For the LE in particular, we have no OEM power liftgate, so the trunk button (both hard button and soft) is a complete waste.

Other notes:
1. Not for the faint of heart, it requires disassembling your original key, stealing the chip, AND soldering wires to it. I do soldering occasionally for hobby purposes and it doesn't seem too bad, but even then, putting my very expensive OEM key chip at risk would have me sweating a bit. Then there's also the bit about reverting to stock in case you need to.
2. The proximity unlock, it works purely on distance. There's a reason the OEM system waits for you to grab the handle, so you don't have the car randomly locking/unlocking when you're walking close to it. This could turn out to be really annoying.
3. Security concern with adding a random piece of Chinese hardware to your car that can unlock it? I'm pretty sure the way it works, the OBD2 adapter lets the smart key know when it's close to it, and then tells the key to unlock the door. So you still need the key around to make it work. I'm guessing that's how it works anyway...

Edit:
One more... A quick search on Aliexpress looks like there's tonnes of options of similar products, all in the ~US$50 range.