[portillagee]

Bring on the snow! Here’s my XLE AWD with the 2” Journeys Offroad kit. (And custom roof rails and quick-remove bars). Clerance is now similar to my wife‘s Subaru Outback.

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Quick remove bars?? Tell me more, please. We have the OEM roof rails. Our old Subaru Outback had quick-stow away cross bars, which was awesome for noise reduction and, in theory, MPG improvement when not in use.

 

[EricD]

If you're looking at snow cables maybe take a look at Autosocks instead. I used them for years on a Honda Odyssey for going skiing at Stevens Pass. WAY easier to put on/take off than chains or cables, work with any amount of clearance, and very good traction on snow and ice.

 

[portillagee]

Those look incredible. And they probably aren't thrown as much by the centrifugal force as heavier chains or cables. Thanks.

 

[EricD]

They also self-center on the tires. Still have the 30-35mph speed limit on them and they are more expensive than chains/cables but I'll never use anything else anymore. I keep a set in the AWD Sienna even with snow tires just in case.

 

[dcaverly]

I don't think there is a two inch kit.

Journey Off-road’s website has both 3” and 2” kits available.

 

[dcaverly]

I don't think there is a two inch kit.

There is. Just saw it on their website today.

 

[hksscom]

Were you able to find the right jack?

Just thought I’d add my experience. I had the 3inch kit installed by my local Toyota dealership about 2 months ago. Cost me about 1,500 (labor and alignment). They finished in a day. I have the curt tow hitch installed and I no longer scrap the ground when going down steep driveways. The stock jack was not enough to lift the car with the 3 inch lift. I had to put a solid concrete block under the jack to get the height. Time to look into taller aftermarket jacks. I did notice I get about 2mpg less now. Was normally getting 36/37mpg now getting 34/35. I am noticing some spring noise (knocking) on turns when going about 20-40mph. The noise showed up about 1.5months after the install. Everything seems tight but I will be taking back to the dealership to check it out.

 

[Richard E]

Quick remove bars?? Tell me more, please. We have the OEM roof rails. Our old Subaru Outback had quick-stow away cross bars, which was awesome for noise reduction and, in theory, MPG improvement when not in use.

Sorry, missed this posting. My van has no factory roof rack as option so I got a custom install.
My roof bars come off as fast as I can stow the bars on my wife’s Subaru.

see post 59 here:

Aftermarket Roofrails

Unfortunately, just like on the 3rd generation Sienna L, the base 2021 LE and XLE have no provisions for mounting roof rails. See photo of a 2021 Sienna LE showing the roof rail mounting area at the roof seam (the roof drip side finish moulding has been lifted). You can see the normal spot weld...

www.siennachat.com

 

[Heynow]

First time poster and potential Sienna owner. I want to lift it a bit for potholed forest service roads and potential deep mountain snow. I think I'm going to get myself on a waitlist for a 2022 XSE (possibly Limited), but before I do I wanted to confirm two things:

1) The Journeys 2" lift kit works on all Sienna models, correct?
2) Dealers have been telling me lifting Sienna's alters the camera for the cruise control and car/lane recognition. I understand lifting does alter the angle a bit, especially when looking at cars far ahead, but this seems like them being over cautious. For those that have lifted and also have the camera technologies, have you noticed any performance issues in terms of that? Did you have to get the cameras/sensors recalibrated after the lift?
Thanks!!

 

[EricD]

1. All Gen4's (except woodland maybe?) have the same suspension setup so the kit works on all trims
2. The place I went did the same recalibration as when you get the windshield replaced, adjusted headlight beams, and did an alignment.

 

[Heynow]

1. All Gen4's (except woodland maybe?) have the same suspension setup so the kit works on all trims
2. The place I went did the same recalibration as when you get the windshield replaced, adjusted headlight beams, and did an alignment.

Thanks for that reply! Looks like we are both in the Seattle area and I just read you were looking at having Truline do the install last year. Did you end up with them? If so, were you happy with the result, did they do the recalibration themselves, and how much did it cost for total labor?

 

[HoodSkiVanlife]

First time poster and potential Sienna owner. I want to lift it a bit for potholed forest service roads and potential deep mountain snow. I think I'm going to get myself on a waitlist for a 2022 XSE (possibly Limited), but before I do I wanted to confirm two things:

1) The Journeys 2" lift kit works on all Sienna models, correct?
2) Dealers have been telling me lifting Sienna's alters the camera for the cruise control and car/lane recognition. I understand lifting does alter the angle a bit, especially when looking at cars far ahead, but this seems like them being over cautious. For those that have lifted and also have the camera technologies, have you noticed any performance issues in terms of that? Did you have to get the cameras/sensors recalibrated after the lift?
Thanks!!

I have a lift and have not noticed any issues. Cruised PDX to Bozeman and back on I-84/90. Cruised PDX to Bend and back. Dealer did the lift and I have no idea if any calibration was done. The headlights are an issue especially when loaded but not a big issue. Other threads exist talking about improving the read spring compression.

Others have claimed higher efficiency than I see, granted it's winter, car is lifted, full of stuff and people, with a box on top, going 80 MPH.

If you are ordering, I'd recommend avoiding the OEM roof rails and going after market. I really don't like the OEM rails. Also avoid the wheels with the plastic caps glued on. See other threads about this.

 

[EricD]

Thanks for that reply! Looks like we are both in the Seattle area and I just read you were looking at having Truline do the install last year. Did you end up with them? If so, were you happy with the result, did they do the recalibration themselves, and how much did it cost for total labor?

I used Automotive Lighting | LED Interior Kits | LED Bulbs | Light Bars to do the install and liked their work a lot. It was $1552 for the install, which is quite a bit, but they seemed the most trustworthy when it came to the suspension work. I've put on 4k miles with the lift and had zero problems with it.

 

[Lex]

First time poster and potential Sienna owner. I want to lift it a bit for potholed forest service roads and potential deep mountain snow. I think I'm going to get myself on a waitlist for a 2022 XSE (possibly Limited), but before I do I wanted to confirm two things:

1) The Journeys 2" lift kit works on all Sienna models, correct?
2) Dealers have been telling me lifting Sienna's alters the camera for the cruise control and car/lane recognition. I understand lifting does alter the angle a bit, especially when looking at cars far ahead, but this seems like them being over cautious. For those that have lifted and also have the camera technologies, have you noticed any performance issues in terms of that? Did you have to get the cameras/sensors recalibrated after the lift?
Thanks!!

Multiple dealers told me the same about the safety features, trying to scare me by speaking of diminished safety and voided warranties.

I spoke to a service manager at one of those same dealerships and he seemed puzzled by all of that, citing that 80% of the Tundras he saw were lifted to no ill effect.

Do with that what you will…

 

[Heynow]

I have a lift and have not noticed any issues. Cruised PDX to Bozeman and back on I-84/90. Cruised PDX to Bend and back. Dealer did the lift and I have no idea if any calibration was done. The headlights are an issue especially when loaded but not a big issue. Other threads exist talking about improving the read spring compression.

Others have claimed higher efficiency than I see, granted it's winter, car is lifted, full of stuff and people, with a box on top, going 80 MPH.

If you are ordering, I'd recommend avoiding the OEM roof rails and going after market. I really don't like the OEM rails. Also avoid the wheels with the plastic caps glued on. See other threads about this.

Good to know. I guess the headlights point down a bit more?

I used Automotive Lighting | LED Interior Kits | LED Bulbs | Light Bars to do the install and liked their work a lot. It was $1552 for the install, which is quite a bit, but they seemed the most trustworthy when it came to the suspension work. I've put on 4k miles with the lift and had zero problems with it.

Thanks for that pricing info. Just to clarify, the shop you took it to was an automotive lighting place?

Multiple dealers told me the same about the safety features, trying to scare me by speaking of diminished safety and voided warranties.

I spoke to a service manager at one of those same dealerships and he seemed puzzled by all of that, citing that 80% of the Tundras he saw were lifted to no ill effect.

Do with that what you will…

That's what I was thinking, they were probably playing it safe.

 

[Richard E]

Hmm, I never got my sensors or headlights adjusted for my 2" lift.
I have not noticed any issues, but next dealer service I will get them to look at that.

 

[EricD]

Good to know. I guess the headlights point down a bit more?

Thanks for that pricing info. Just to clarify, the shop you took it to was an automotive lighting place?

That's what I was thinking, they were probably playing it safe.

I have a Platinum with the projector headlights so they had to adjust the beam cutoff so I don't blind people, I think it was just adjusting them down a little bit.

HPK does suspension Air Bag installs as well Services | HID Kit Pros which is why I originally contacted them. They do lift/suspension/alignment work as one of their many services.

 

[AndyK]

I have a lift and have not noticed any issues. Cruised PDX to Bozeman and back on I-84/90. Cruised PDX to Bend and back. Dealer did the lift and I have no idea if any calibration was done. The headlights are an issue especially when loaded but not a big issue. Other threads exist talking about improving the read spring compression.

Others have claimed higher efficiency than I see, granted it's winter, car is lifted, full of stuff and people, with a box on top, going 80 MPH.

If you are ordering, I'd recommend avoiding the OEM roof rails and going after market. I really don't like the OEM rails. Also avoid the wheels with the plastic caps glued on. See other threads about this.

I’m also in PDX, and it sounds like our use cases are similar… Skier/spring volcano bagger, forest road crawling for MTB shuttles, camping in the back, PDX city driving, etc.

Im curious if you went with the 2” or 3” lift and how it is performing for you. I want the most clearance possible for snow and forest road driving, but want to maintain MPG and ride characteristics as much as possible for my day to day driving.

Thanks!

 

[Omnisphere]

Not sure if anyone has asked this yet, but I'm just about to have the 3 inch lift installed and I'm wondering if I would be ok with a scissor jack that has a 14 inch range. If I end up with 10 inches or more of clearance with the new tires, I just want to make sure the jack I purchase will provide enough clearance while I am on the road. I'll be getting a full sized spare but I would hate to get out there with a flat and discover that I have the wrong jack. 😬

 

[portillagee]

Hey, RichardE, thanks so much. I have factor rails and OEM crossbars. The crossbars aren't wide enough for a canoe. This setup looks incredible, especially the ability to remove and swap the crossbars for different needs.

Sorry, missed this posting. My van has no factory roof rack as option so I got a custom install.
My roof bars come off as fast as I can stow the bars on my wife’s Subaru.

see post 59 here:

Aftermarket Roofrails

Unfortunately, just like on the 3rd generation Sienna L, the base 2021 LE and XLE have no provisions for mounting roof rails. See photo of a 2021 Sienna LE showing the roof rail mounting area at the roof seam (the roof drip side finish moulding has been lifted). You can see the normal spot weld...

www.siennachat.com