typical cost of 90K Maintainence at Toyota Dealer..
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What is listed in the Maintenance? I'm sure most of that cost is the Timing Belt & Water Pump. If you shop around you can get deals. The price you are quoting is from the Stealership of course.
Regards, JC.
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This is the recommended srvice...
I have read in other forums, I should also change the water pump as it is near the timing belt.
What else should I look forward to change...
This is the recommended srvice...
| Action: | Description |
| Rotate | Wheels & tires |
| Replace | Crankcase Oil Filter |
| Change fluid | Crankcase |
| Inspect | Brake Friction Material |
| Inspect fluid level | Transfer case |
| Inspect | Steering gearbox |
| Inspect fluid level | Final drive |
| Inspect | Exhaust system |
| Inspect | Drive Belt(s) |
| Inspect | Cooling system |
| Inspect | Brake lines & hoses |
| Inspect | Radiator |
| Inspect | Fuel Hoses |
| Inspect fluid level | Automatic transmission/transaxle |
| Replace | Air filter element |
| Inspect | AC condenser |
| Replace | Timing belt(s) |
I have read in other forums, I should also change the water pump as it is near the timing belt.
What else should I look forward to change...
Yes water pump and timing belt are wise to replace together. That also means the coolant is replaced. Since they remove the P/S pump belt and Alternator belt, those are usually replaced as well. Some times the tensioner and Idler pulleys are replaced as well.
Regards, JC.
Regards, JC.
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Okay, the service items you referenced above are pretty slim. Most of the items are inspections which can be done in a few minutes. The service book pads the "official" repair times on these items horribly. Just remember, auto shops have to make a living and pay their employees, who need to live decent lives. So the $100+/hr labor rates and padded work hours they charge you are going to good use.
You just don't have to pay those prices if you are capable of doing the work yourself, or can find someone who can do the work for a cheaper rate and without padding hours.
* The Toyota brand timing belt and water pump will run you $150 or so. Aisin makes many of the Toyota water pumps -- they run ~$50. Gates or other brand name belts will probably run you half of Toyota. I've seen labor quotes for those two replacement items along anywhere from $350 to $700.
* External belts come off anyway so they can be replaced for parts only cost, ~$50 for both.
* Items which usually don't have issues and therefore generally not replaced: Tensioner $50 with virtually no labor cost, Toyota brand pulleys ~$80-100 each with virtually no labor cost, Cam and crank seals $10 each with ~$100 labor for all three.
* Thermostat -- if you are replacing the coolant, you might as well get the thermostat at this time. It's on the other side of the engine so labor cost will be separate The part is $20, Stealership labor $200. And, you might as well also get the radiator hoses for good measure... don't want one of those bursting due to age ... $20 each?
The other items on your list are relatively small:
* crankcase oil and filter ... that's a regular engine oil and filter change
* Inspect transfer case and diff? I would replace that fluid every 40-50k miles. Very easy to replace, takes one qt 75w-90 gear oil in each. I would budget $100 or so for auto shop labor to do this, or DIY for $20-30 gear oil and four crush washers for the fill/drain bolts.
* also note on your list they are not including the water pump or coolant replacement. They are only replacing the timing belt. $1200 for that list is definitely a "stealership" price.
Fyi, using a 20% off high mileage coupon on our car at 90k, I was able to talk the dealership down from $1800 to $1400 for timing belt, water pump, pulleys, cam and crank seals, external belts, and thermostat. For whatever reason I forgot to have them include the tensioner so they did not replace it -- but that would have been another $50. I did the cam/crank seals because one of our cam seals started leaking, so I figured get the entire front-end job and we'll be good for another 90k
You just don't have to pay those prices if you are capable of doing the work yourself, or can find someone who can do the work for a cheaper rate and without padding hours.
* The Toyota brand timing belt and water pump will run you $150 or so. Aisin makes many of the Toyota water pumps -- they run ~$50. Gates or other brand name belts will probably run you half of Toyota. I've seen labor quotes for those two replacement items along anywhere from $350 to $700.
* External belts come off anyway so they can be replaced for parts only cost, ~$50 for both.
* Items which usually don't have issues and therefore generally not replaced: Tensioner $50 with virtually no labor cost, Toyota brand pulleys ~$80-100 each with virtually no labor cost, Cam and crank seals $10 each with ~$100 labor for all three.
* Thermostat -- if you are replacing the coolant, you might as well get the thermostat at this time. It's on the other side of the engine so labor cost will be separate The part is $20, Stealership labor $200. And, you might as well also get the radiator hoses for good measure... don't want one of those bursting due to age ... $20 each?
The other items on your list are relatively small:
* crankcase oil and filter ... that's a regular engine oil and filter change
* Inspect transfer case and diff? I would replace that fluid every 40-50k miles. Very easy to replace, takes one qt 75w-90 gear oil in each. I would budget $100 or so for auto shop labor to do this, or DIY for $20-30 gear oil and four crush washers for the fill/drain bolts.
* also note on your list they are not including the water pump or coolant replacement. They are only replacing the timing belt. $1200 for that list is definitely a "stealership" price.
Fyi, using a 20% off high mileage coupon on our car at 90k, I was able to talk the dealership down from $1800 to $1400 for timing belt, water pump, pulleys, cam and crank seals, external belts, and thermostat. For whatever reason I forgot to have them include the tensioner so they did not replace it -- but that would have been another $50. I did the cam/crank seals because one of our cam seals started leaking, so I figured get the entire front-end job and we'll be good for another 90k
Wow that's a lot of money. I just had the following done at a service center using Denso parts all for $2,000
Transmission filter and fluid change, timing belt, water pump, idler pulley, complete tune up, radiator replaced and since he had the wiper motor assembly out for the rear spark plugs I also changed the 3 coil packs.
Transmission filter and fluid change, timing belt, water pump, idler pulley, complete tune up, radiator replaced and since he had the wiper motor assembly out for the rear spark plugs I also changed the 3 coil packs.
$700 to $1200 seems reasonable for Timing belt, waterpump and pulleys.
I would not replace the hoses nor thermostat until at least 200k miles unless they are failing.
On my car, I procrastinated until 120K miles before changing the timing belt and old one looked like new. Unless you're in a hot climate, you could likely delay service until 105K or so.
I would not replace the hoses nor thermostat until at least 200k miles unless they are failing.
On my car, I procrastinated until 120K miles before changing the timing belt and old one looked like new. Unless you're in a hot climate, you could likely delay service until 105K or so.
I bought a whole kit off of Ebay for the timing chain replacement, included the seals, gaskets, belts, thermostat, water pump, idler pulley.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexus-Toyot...Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cdae3a996&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexus-Toyot...Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cdae3a996&vxp=mtr
Isn't it too expensive? just contact any dealer by your state http://italkaboutcars.com/toyota-dealers-and-service-centers-in-usa
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