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Still waiting for my white XSE AWD tech to arrive. Dealership in the GTA. Ordered at the beginning of June.

 

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I think Stouffville Toyota may have an available red XSE 2022

I just checked inventory. XSE FWD non tech. I really like the red colour though.
The thing is, if you're spending $50+k on a van, you mind as well spend the $2k for the AWD. With basically a zero impact on fuel economy, it's really a no brainer if you live anywhere with snow.

 

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I just looked at the 2022 trims on toyota.ca. XSE is now the only mid-level trim that offers AWD. That's not good. It just means demand will be way higher. Or, the Woodland trim may be offered in Canada which takes the place of the XLE AWD.

 

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I went into my local Toyota dealership on October 15, 2021 (Penticton, BC) and they happened to have one 2022 Sienna XSE FWD in stock, so purchased it right away, should i consider myself lucky?

Good for you! Enjoy it!
From my conversations with the new car manager, he said the AWD models are the hardest to get. The demand for the AWD and mid level trim is the highest.

 

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I just got off the phone with my dealer. Next month they have 3 incoming, a couple LEs and a XSE. Nothing with AWD.

At this point, I'm thinking a February delivery time frame is more realistic (XSE AWD tech).

 

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Thanks for sharing this. Not completely surprised with this given Toyota is also impacted by the chip shortage, global supply chain hurdle, and other challenges. Guess I will have to patiently wait for mine (XSE + AWD + Tech) to arrive.

Yeah. I ordered in June. So it's been quite a wait. But AWD is must for me.

The dealer said, he thinks Toyota is building whatever they have parts for. So it means, lower trim levels, no AWD, no tech.
He also said that the discontinuation of the XLE AWD is disappointing for them as it's a top seller.

 

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When you think about it, it actually makes a lot of sense for them to discontinue XLE AWD. Based on the speculation from your dealership, if they don't have enough parts to build AWD vehicles, then they're basically forcing those who want AWD to upgrade and therefore spend more money. It's a win-win because they can earn more money, and reduce the wait time for these models, and not tie up their parts for lower end models. I've read an article where I think the big 3 domestics (or at least Dodge is..) moving forward with a similar tactic.

That theory makes sense.
I wonder if chose the XLE AWD because they didn't like the interior or the exterior styling of the XSE AWD. It would either push them to spend +13k for the Limited or -3k for the LE AWD.

But either way, it sucks for ppl who were waiting for the XLE AWD.

I would've been ok with either XLE AWD or XSE AWD, but I wanted the roof rails.

 

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I put our order on the last week of Sep 2021, which should be the 26th. The salesman, which I mentioned, we sometimes fishing together as friends, told me every ETA now is basically bullshit. Nobody really knows, but next March or April seems more reliable for now. We are in NS.

It's true. My dealer isn't even bothering giving me a date. They just said call me when they find out what next month's allotment is. Then we can decide if you want anything that's coming in. I ordered at the beginning of June BTW.

 

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Edit - Ignore what I said below. My bad.


IIRC, Fog lights are mandatory in Canada so all trims come with it. I remember reading it here somewhere earlier.

Lol. That's totally untrue.

 

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For well over $50k I'm getting cheap plastic covers instead of the rims? Really, Toyota? Now I'm on the fence about what to do:
1. Leave it as is (cost - $0).
2. To use the Plastidip (or another product, but can't find on amazon) - under $50.
3. Skip the whole 18" fiasco and get 20" ones. Sell OEM and buy rims and tires. It will cost way over the grand.

Do what some have already done on the site. get 20s for the summer. use the 18s for winter.

 

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I was thinking to get nice 20' rims. But the accountant inside of me was very unhappy. Let's do the math: rims - starting from $1,500, rubber - at least $300 per wheel, thus $1,200 in total, plus TPMS sensors - another $300. $400 for HST plus installation of the rubber on the rims - another $150. All in all, it totals at $3,500 and change. The most optimistic price to sell OEM rims and rubber is $1,000. Thus, I'm on the hook for $2.5k.

I'm leaning towards to rip the plastic caps off and either to "Hyperdip" (name of the product) either to powder coat the rims. For sure, those OEMs are not something to write home about, but not that bad (with plastic off):

Good point.
I forgot about the OEM set of tires. For me, I'm putting the OEM Sienna tires on my 2010 Acura RDX for summer. OE size for the RDX is 235/50/18, the OE Sienna is 235/55/18. So it's close enough that it works. And the tires I have on the RDX right now need to be replaced for next spring anyways. So in my case, I'm really spending an extra $500 or so to upgrade to 20s.

Here's my total:
factory 18 for winter and getting aftermarket 20 for summer.
$1200 tax incl. for 4 20" wheels
$1265 tax incl. for 4 245/50/20 tires
$100 install
$300 TPMS
$976 tax incl. for 4 235/55/18 winter tires installed
$3841 total
(extra set of OE Sienna tires to be used on my other car)

total if sticking with factory 18 for winter and getting aftermarket 18 for summer.
$976 tax incl. 4 235/55/18 winter tires installed
$985 tax incl. for 4 18" summer wheels
$100 install
$300 TPMS
$2361 total

You could get steelies, but that will run you around $500 anyways! Mind as well spend a bit more to make the car look better. You'll hate it when those steelies start rusting in 3 years.

 

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Your situation is different. You have another vehicle to place your 18" tires on. Not my case.

Which 20' rims did you choose?

From $$$ perspective, $2.5k out of pocket is a bit too much in my mind. I'll spare that cash for something else.

For the winner tires - last year I bought the 17" set for my current Sienna. During the course of last winter, I put 2k km only on them. Thus, I decided to get good 17" rims recently. I'll put them on this Thursday and once I'll get a new Sienna, I'll flip them there. Thus, I'm stuck with 18" for summer... That's sux, but it is what it is. Once these 18' tires will be done, I'll think about what to do next.

And yes - steelies are starting to rust the moment you left the shop. No way around that. Looks ugly (disgusting I would say) the very first winter. Not using them now and have no plans in that regard..

Oh ok. that makes sense then. don't spend that money. You might be able to find a used 5x114.3 18" set from a RAV4, Venza or Camry.

I have a set of 20" Fast FC04 in titanium that have been sitting in the living room since July. 😢

LOL, we're making all these decisions and don't even have the van yet!

 

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I'm at 6 months and still waiting for xse awd tech.

My kids are predicting March delivery. I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.

 

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I see 53.5k for xse awd tech. Unless Ontario and bc have different pricing

 

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Yes, reduced MSRP was for the 2021 model.

Oh I see where the variation is... you included the fees.

 

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I received a call from the dealership today. Update: No update. Toyota Canada told them to reiterate what is already known: ETA's are uncertain but likely to be delayed. Holding out hope for April - May 2022 for my Black AWD XSE w/ Tech, which was ordered this month.

The dealer is right though. ETAs are not good because it's hard to know with everything going on. For all we know, we could be heading straight back into another lockdown or part vendors start getting shutdown due to outbreaks.
The farther out you set you expectations, the less likely you are to be disappointed.
I used to call the dealer for updates. I gave up after month 4. I'm at 6 months right now. I don't expect to receive the xse awd tech until at least February.

 

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That begs the question why they would bother posting it on their website if it's already spoken for...

It attracts potential customers. It happened to me to a dealer a couple hours away from me. They listed a sienna. I called them and they said "oh, we don't actually have that, but we do have this one coming in. Can I get your name and phone number?"

 

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DOes some1 know if December allocation is out? My dealer keeps telling me "not yet". I guess they are playing games...

You mean January allocation. They won't know until December 20, 21, 22 sometime around then.

 

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Yeah. FWD and AWD are completely different in terms of demand.
If I'm spending 50k on a van, I'll spend the extra 2k to get AWD. Virtually no fuel penalty and better slippery condition performance.

I'm glad you got your van so soon and with a great deal. Enjoy it.

I'm approaching 7 months waiting for a white XSE AWD tech.

 

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Ordered my XSE AWD no tech at the beginning of June, was quoted 4-6 months. 6 months is up, and still nothing so I just called the sales guy today. He could not give me a more accurate time frame, and wasn't willing to make any promises for that matter. Toyota Canada has also told his dealership that BC will also be receiving less allocation in 2022 compared to 2021... I hope I won't have to wait a total of 12months or more before getting it.

Same order timeframe for me too. Xse awd tech. You're like many others who are still waiting.