I'm from Toronto and recently asked about this. The dealers are reluctant to sell out of province and basically requires you to buy in person and do lease or finance (no cash deals) to avoid export sales. The dealerships I talked to had similar wait times to what I've been told around here anyway so I didn't look further.
Phantom stock most likely. A sales from Edmonton told me that recently AMVIC started requiring all dealer inventory to be listed even if they've been preordered. Not sure if it's true or not, but what is pretty certain is the dealers aren't sitting on stock.
I heard that the Limited trim is especially hard to get a hold of, good that you finally managed to get yours.
That was an interesting thought so I decided to see if there's any information. Here are the Sienna sales numbers in Canada over the past 2 years:
I wouldn't worry about spare parts in the long run. This is all due to temporary supply chain issues, and I would think that Toyota has every intention to bring the feature back once they become available (just like the mythical fridge and vacuum).
I think it's highly likely the harness is there. Introducing a new harness arrangement would probably just cause more supply chain nightmare for them.
I see a good opportunity for you to swap with someone who can't get the digital rear view due to shortage. I'm sure you'll find someone really happy to swap+cash with you.
I've heard just about any combination of answers from dealers, given I've talked to just about every dealer in the golden horseshoe (and some beyond)... Limited is the hardest to get. LE AWD is the hardest to get. Trim doesn't matter. 3-4 months. 6-9 months. 9-12 months. Pick any number you like, I can find a dealer who can tell you that's right.Lool he said it doesnt matter the trim
I think it's use case is if you have the rear entertainment screen down and can't see out the back. Or the van is completely loaded with cargo. The standard backup camera will take care of the parking situation.
True, it's a good point, except I had trouble executing that in real life.
You're giving me hope that my XSE will also arrive sooner than expected! Fingers crossed!
Glad they worked out for you. I was actually really close to ordering from Maple cause I heard some good things about them. But I contacted them by phone, and was promised someone in sales will call me back that day. No one did so I went elsewhere. And a week later, they called and asked if I still wanted to talk with a sales person... Too late by then.
Congrats! Finally the wait is over! That bronze looks great, it's definitely the color we'd pick if we bought Limited. Enjoy!
They didn't make any interior color changes between 2021 and 2022 for Canada. Bronze only comes with tan interior.
I've also been comparing wait times between Canada and the US, and definitely we're in a much worse spot. There are differences in buyer tastes between the two markets even though we're close neighbors. I remember before the SUV craze, for the longest time the best selling car in Canada was the Civic (or Corolla), and the US was the Accord (or Camry), so we tend to buying smaller (maybe because our cars have always been more expensive). I guess the Sienna has been an even bigger hit here than the US.
Congrats! Do you mind sharing what city you're in and which dealership?
So your dealer basically told you they manipulate the wait list based on which sale gets them the most profit, in which case I guess it's impossible to know what will happen cause it depends who else is in the queue with an even better trade or bought more pricey dealer add ons.
