waiting time in Canada (please share)

Jetstreamblue · 2022-09-30T14:26:38-0400

Rb88 said:
After a day, he got back to me saying that the dealership would rather keep it within the town, apparently folks are exporting Sienna's to China. They wont sell it to out of town folks because of that.

Pity. The guy I spoke with was super nice about it though.

I had that a lot last year when I called around basically every dealership in Ontario and few out of province (that was when my wife still insisted we try to find one in stock rather than just order one and wait). Being an Asian guy trying to purchase in cash didn't help things. A few dealerships told me they can sell to me if I finance, others flat out refused no matter what. I didn't want to jump through any hoops so eventually I ended up ordering with a GTA dealer who didn't mention anything about export to me even once.

pamhar · 2022-09-30T15:17:09-0400

Jetstreamblue said:
I had that a lot last year when I called around basically every dealership in Ontario and few out of province (that was when my wife still insisted we try to find one in stock rather than just order one and wait). Being an Asian guy trying to purchase in cash didn't help things. A few dealerships told me they can sell to me if I finance, others flat out refused no matter what. I didn't want to jump through any hoops so eventually I ended up ordering with a GTA dealer who didn't mention anything about export to me even once.

We had similar eperience.

Got at MSRP and no admin fees.

There was never any suggestion as to how funding. We had choice to pay cash, lease or finance.
Only requirement was that we had to be from around the area but even that was very fair; as long as within 200 kms. We were from different city then dealership but close enough for them.

Then a week later started reading some dealerships wanted local city buyers only or had to sign agreement not to sell within a year or had to finance.

All things never heard about until pandemic and supply shortage.

harmar · 2022-09-30T18:04:51-0400

Cant you just agree on the finance? I thought they were all open, so agree to it, then a week or two later pay it off outright

Thinkman · 2022-09-30T18:29:27-0400

Which dealer will sell you at msrp in Toronto ?

Jetstreamblue · 2022-09-30T20:48:52-0400

Thinkman said:
Which dealer will sell you at msrp in Toronto ?

I ordered at Erin Park. MSRP, no dealer add ons, no admin fees.

Rb88 · 2022-10-01T12:05:51-0400

pamhar said:
Tell him you'll sign an agreement not to sell for one year or finance it. If do latter just pay off when want as long as no penalty.

Tried that. Even offered to lease instead of finance, for a one year term. Unfortunately, no. They need to sell it inside of their city.

Tbh, I appreciate this more than the price gouging I see in GTA.. they're at least being honest about the whole thing. In GTA the dealers are looking to make 10k off a family minivan.. not even a luxury car.

pamhar · 2022-10-01T12:13:50-0400

Rb88 said:
Tried that. Even offered to lease instead of finance, for a one year term. Unfortunately, no. They need to sell it inside of their city.

Tbh, I appreciate this more than the price gouging I see in GTA.. they're at least being honest about the whole thing. In GTA the dealers are looking to make 10k off a family minivan.. not even a luxury car.

Which dealership is this?

Always good to give a shout out to dealerships not gouging customers.

Try dealerships on outskirts of GTA... cold call them as never know there might be cancellation.

I've been seeing more Siennas on road lately.

Rb88 · 2022-10-01T13:35:04-0400

pamhar said:
Which dealership is this?

Always good to give a shout out to dealerships not gouging customers.

Try dealerships on outskirts of GTA... cold call them as never know there might be cancellation.

I've been seeing more Siennas on road lately.

Sault st Marie Toyota. Deal didn't work out, but they are honest and straight up.

dairy_co · 2022-10-02T19:32:57-0400

I saw a white 25th anniversary badged sienna in Burnaby this afternoon. I wonder which dealership delivered it.

Jetstreamblue · 2022-10-03T09:58:56-0400

dairy_co said:
I saw a white 25th anniversary badged sienna in Burnaby this afternoon. I wonder which dealership delivered it.

Awesome, so the 2023's are already being delivered. Yet we still don't have official Canadian pricing info...

Losercruiser8 · 2022-10-03T11:15:14-0400

Just checked toyota.ca today. Both lease and finance rates have increased. Financing jumped 80 basis points.

pamhar · 2022-10-03T11:35:12-0400

Losercruiser8 said:
Just checked toyota.ca today. Both lease and finance rates have increased. Financing jumped 80 basis points.

Hopefully that will cause less demand and so more supply although the backlog of orders might cancel that.

Losercruiser8 · 2022-10-03T11:39:01-0400

pamhar said:
Hopefully that will cause less demand and so more supply although the backlog of orders might cancel that.

Maybe everyone should hold off and not take their orders. The dealers will be stuck with inventory and will need to apply discounts

Rb88 · 2022-10-03T14:06:45-0400

Losercruiser8 said:
Maybe everyone should hold off and not take their orders. The dealers will be stuck with inventory and will need to apply discounts

Whenever possible, do call out price gouging dealerships over here. I understand for used cars, as the sellers too want the extra $. But for brand new, if someone marks up, let it be known. There has to be some consequence after this madness ends.

pamhar · 2022-10-03T17:02:13-0400

Rb88 said:
Whenever possible, do call out price gouging dealerships over here. I understand for used cars, as the sellers too want the extra $. But for brand new, if someone marks up, let it be known. There has to be some consequence after this madness ends.

Agreed.

If customers don't remember and vote with their wallet then such shenanigans will continue.

Jetstreamblue · 2022-10-04T07:02:52-0400

So it looks like Toyota continues to send more vehicles to the US, leaving Canadians waiting.
September 2022 USA sales up 17% from September 2021
Canadian sales down 17.5% for the same period

harmar · 2022-10-04T08:28:41-0400

Toyota.ca now updated with 2023 Sienna.
Looks like a modest in increase if about 100-600 depending on the model

Glad to see anniversary edition in Canada is getting the 1500 watt inverter which is great

Bad news is 80 basis points increase on financing

Jetstreamblue · 2022-10-04T08:32:30-0400

harmar said:
Toyota.ca now updated with 2023 Sienna.
Looks like a modest in increase if about 100-600 depending on the model

Glad to see anniversary edition in Canada is getting the 1500 watt inverter which is great

Finally! So it looks like a $600 increase for the XSE AWD model I ordered. Interestingly, the 25th Edition is listed as a Package upgrade on the XSE, and it's less expensive than the Tech Package. For the upgrades, it makes the Tech Package pricing look like complete nonsense.

Whoever manages to snag a 25th Edition is getting one heck of a deal. Congrats to whoever the winners may be.

elementZ · 2022-10-04T09:19:29-0400

The 25th anniversary is the first sienna in Canada with the all black interior. That's nice.

harmar · 2022-10-04T09:30:55-0400

Jetstreamblue said:
Finally! So it looks like a $600 increase for the XSE AWD model I ordered. Interestingly, the 25th Edition is listed as a Package upgrade on the XSE, and it's less expensive than the Tech Package. For the upgrades, it makes the Tech Package pricing look like complete nonsense.

Whoever manages to snag a 25th Edition is getting one heck of a deal. Congrats to whoever the winners may be.

Yeah I mean the main thing out of the tech package it is missing is the entertainment system. but whatever, with no digital rear view mirror it wouldnt be great anyways,
Im still hoping I am on track for getting my 25th edition next month..

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