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My 2017 Sienna has never given me any trouble. 2 days ago I backed it out of my garage and parked it in the street. Started normally, ran for maybe 30 seconds, and sat since . Today my friend picked up his honda scooter I've been storing for him. His battery was dead. We wheeled it to the street and jumped it with the Sienna battery.. I didnt start the Sienna or put the key in the ignition.. After we got the scooter running I went to put the Sienna back in the garage and it won"t start Cranks really fast.. Not a cough or sputter though. I am stumped. Any ideas??
 

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My guess that you had OR the jumpers touched together and popped some fuses. 1 fuse to check is the ETCS fuse under the hood by the battery. This is the electronic throttle fuse. Ususally first fuse to blow.
 

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Just take a meter and measure the battery terminal voltage. If you're below 12, time to replace the battery.
I just had to replace the original Toyota battery in my '18. Five years is about the life of these things.
 

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If you started the van from a cold cranking start and didn’t allow the battery to recharge before turning it off, then jumped the scooter without turning on the alternator/engine, and perhaps your battery is older, you probably sapped the cranking amps necessary to cold crank the engine again.
 

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Instead of using the Sienna battery, I recommend buying a good rechargeable battery pack for emergencies. This would be a good Christmas present. They are available on Amazon and E-Bay and they are easy to use. This avoids blowing fuses and other issues.
 

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I also think you didn't give the battery enough time to recharge, but the battery is partially at fault too.

I had a similar problem, starting and turning off my Sienna a few times during the course of an oil change. It would only start on the 4th attempt after that, barely got it going. I drove over to the auto parts store and the battery failed their test. They said probably one of the cells was going bad. (It was a 15 minute drive to the auto parts store so it had plenty of time to recharge on the way.)

That was my third Toyota brand battery in 5 years. This last one lasted just one year.

I took the battery over to the stealership and asked them about getting some money back. They said they would give me credit for a new battery. I said no thanks, I'm done with Toyota brand batteries.

Of course it seems like everything these days is made like that now. But I expect better from something Toyota puts their brand name on.
 

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If you are going to jump start someone else's vehicle your car should be running. Having said that I will second namantm that you should get a jump start battery pack. One of the newer lithium ion type that you can get from $50 to $100. They are really great. You do not have to worry about lining up the cars. You don't have to worry about potentially damaging your car. They are smaller than a set of jumper cables. For yourself, you don't have to rely on another car for the jump or to get your car in a place it can be jumped. They have other uses like integrated flashlight, power bank for recharging phone, etc.
The first time I used one was great. I saw a family with a dead battery in a minivan at a kids soccer game as I was walking to my car. They were calling AAA. Normally, I would not offer to jump becuase their car was in a horrible place to line up and I don't know if I'm going to get into a struggle with the dad wanting to do the jumping and I don't let people touch my car. But, I had the jump start so I told them I had a jump start and I could start it if they wanted. Took like 20 seconds to setup and start the car. They were totally happy. I started giving these things out as gifts to family and friends.
Lithium batteries do not like heat so store this in the coolest part of your car, low in the trunk or under a seat. They may not work great in extreem cold either but you can warm them up by putting in your jacket for a few minutes. You should check it every few months and make sure it is near full. 80% full will give you the best battery life in the long run and you can get plenty of jumps out of that.
I live in Miami and I get 2-3 years out of a car battery. Heat kills these things and they just bake in the engine compartment. Same battery brand in the Miata that has the battery in the trunk lasts 7 years. When they start to go it will seem to work fine but something as simple as leaving the hazards on for 20 min while you have the car in the street while you mow the lawn can lead to a no start situation. So, using the car to jump another vehicle with your car not running could definitely leave you in a no start situation with a weak battery.
Rearding the spinning sound. Normally when the battery is near dead and you cannot start you may here a series of clicking noises but the car will not run the starter. When you start the car a solenoid pulls the starter motor gear into the flywheel to engage the engine. If the solenoid does not actuate you may here the motor just free spinning without the engine turning. That sounds more like your starter motor solenoid is failing or the electrical connection is poor. If the car starts with a jump starter or jump from another vehicle its the battery. If it does the same thing you have an issue with the starter. The solenoid can usually be replaced which is much cheaper or you can replace the whole unit starter and solenoid. I would check the fuses and electrical connections first to make sure that is not the problem before getting into replacing the starter solenoid.
 

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That was my third Toyota brand battery in 5 years. This last one lasted just one year.

I took the battery over to the stealership and asked them about getting some money back. They said they would give me credit for a new battery. I said no thanks, I'm done with Toyota brand batteries.

Of course it seems like everything these days is made like that now. But I expect better from something Toyota puts their brand name on.
I buy my batteries at Costco and they come with a 3 year warranty from Interstate. Used to be 5 year... When they go I just bring it back and they return for full credit and I buy another. There is sometimes a small difference of a few bucks if the price of the battery has gone up but that is how it works for the first 3 years. It is easy. I used to buy batteries at the parts store and it was always a fiasco to get them to replace it. They want an hour to let it sit on ther charger, then they test it and claim it is ok, so I take it back and it goes dead again and then back to fight with them. Costco is just put it on the table, they scan it and get you another one. I hear that walmart is pretty good too but I never go to walmart.
 

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Well it turns out the engine immobilizer module was bad. It was not recognizing the chip in my key and was preventing the van from being stolen( or so it thought) . Since it had sat for several days it may have been bad before I jumped the moto but the timing is very suspicious. I agree a self-contained jump pack is a good idea. I could have bought one for everyone that responded to this post and not spent what the repair cost. Battery was not the problem.
 

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Well it turns out the engine immobilizer module was bad. It was not recognizing the chip in my key and was preventing the van from being stolen( or so it thought) . Since it had sat for several days it may have been bad before I jumped the moto but the timing is very suspicious. I agree a self-contained jump pack is a good idea. I could have bought one for everyone that responded to this post and not spent what the repair cost. Battery was not the problem.
This just happened to me after replacing a dead 12V AGM battery. After I replaced the battery, the car with the lock icon was flickering and would not allow me to start. After trying a bunch of different things in the manual(closing and shutting doors) and a youtube video of going into acc and clicking buttons, none that worked. I tried the following, if you have remote start.

I stepped out of the van, initialized remote start (clicking lock 2x, then a third hold the lock button down). The van started, the light went away, I opened the door(engine shuts off by default), and was able to sit in and start the van up as usual.

Hope this helps.
 
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