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2017 Navi Update

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#1 ·
Hello All!

Not sure this is the right section or not. Has anyone ever tried to update Navigation Maps in their Sienna? I talked to my dealer and the told me to go to https://toyota.garmin.com/toyota/ but this doesn't look correct at all. I'm assuming this is for overseas models. I wasn't even aware Toyotas used Garmin. Anyways has anyone managed to update this? Mine has a small micro sd card for maps.

Thanks!
 
#8 ·
Funny i should find this post because i was ready begin a fresh bitch session about the maps....first of all since we bought the sienna i gave up on the klunky nav system and rely on the garmin nuvi 2680 or whatever i have.

They want $180 or so to update the crappy sienna maps...it is not that great of a system to begin with so i doubt i would ever update this pos unless the firmware was also updated.

Has the firmware GUI been updated?

It is the one area of the sienna that gets a ZERO in my book. Very bad navigation system. The map switches map orientation everytime it s used no matter how many times i switch to and tell it map only... or track up.

The other ZERO is clearing all the radio presets......clearing then starting over......so lame....

Okay i am done.
 
#9 · (Edited)
See post #6 in this thread on how I get map updates for our Toyotas for $143.65 through the Costco Auto Program.

Sometimes map updates include minor firmware updates but rarely anything notable.

My wife and I each have our own very nice Garmin units and like them a lot. I even thought about working at Garmin after I retired from my "real job" in 2008 since I could almost hit their headquarters with a rock from where we formerly lived in Olathe Kansas.

Based on complaints about the Sienna navigation system on this and other forums, I dutifully carried my Garmin in the glove compartment of our Sienna for the first year of ownership assuming that I'd be frequently using it since the Sienna navigation system was supposed to be so horrible. Guess how many times I used that Garmin in the Sienna - ZERO! I have no problem at all getting the nav in our 2014 Sienna Limited to do what I want and I use the Sienna nav many times each week and sometimes many times per day.

Maybe I adapt to Toyota and other in-dash systems better than most since I've spent most of my work life working in or on the fringes of technology. My recently retired CPA wife, however, is as non-technical as they come. She spent years using one of her series of Garmins weekly in rental cars all over the U.S. as she traveled for work. I thought she would want to use her Garmin in her Prius, but, no, she never uses it and always uses the in-dash nav. Instead of sitting at the breakfast table loading up her Garmin with destinations like she did for business trips, she can now load her destinations for personal trips into Saved Destinations in Entune on her phone and then have them sync up with the in-dash nav in her Prius.

I think what is going on is that the Toyota navigation interface is substantially different, more complex and less intuitive than interfaces commonly used for portable navigation products. It reminds me of a cultural stereotype that recounts how the first thing a typical Japanese product buyer does is to thoroughly read the instructions before ever trying to use a product whereas an American tends to dive right in and use (or assemble!) a product without ever reading the instructions. I certainly have found that to be the case with the supposedly highly educated engineers for whom I've sometimes written technical instructions. Attached is the Dilbert cartoon I used to have on my office wall.

BTW, we still use our Garmins but only in rental cars.
 

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#6 ·
Map updates have "almost always" been annual since Toyota introduced its first vehicle sold in the U.S. with navigation in 1997.

AFAIK, the retail price for all navigation updates is $169 regardless of the media - DVD, Micro SD card, activation card, etc.

We paid $143 and change each for the 2015 DVD update for our 2014 Sienna Limited in late 2015 and for the 2016 update activation card for our 2012 Prius v earlier this year through the Costco Auto Program through which I also bought the Sienna in early 2014.

Based on what I've read on the Toyota Nation forum, updating nav systems that use micro SD is very easy and much like on the older systems that use DVD.

It's good that Toyota has gone back to map updates that can be performed by the owner. The activation card method is apparently confusing even to Toyota dealer techs. A tech botched the update on our Prius and the update ran about three hours when we took the car back in for a re-do.
 
#3 ·
I talked with Toyota in person two weeks ago with the same question. My last map update was 2014 on my 2015 Sienna Limited. I did not do an update, i just checked to see what the date was. I was told to wait till November 2017. The new Micro SD with the update is out every three years according the parts dept rep at the dealer. I believe they will ask me for money for the new maps :)