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Generic TPMS sensors OK for Gen 2?

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#1 ·
Has anyone obtained, installed, and programmed generic sensors from Amazon, ebay or similar? The 08 Sienna is first car I've owned with a TPMS. An independent shop mentioned $150 per tire to add sensor to blank rims, mount, install, program. I do not know if that is reasonable, it was a sticker shock.
 
#3 ·
Perhaps I misunderstand, I thought all 2008 vehicles must have TPMS, no choice. The current valves are definitely TPMS, and I have a set of blank rims for winter treads. If the vehicle does not have TPMS, great, I think the system is a waste. If it does, I must live with it.
 
#4 ·
Are you wanting to add TPMS to the winter rims? If so, I believe that you can clone the existing TPMS on your Sienna. There are numerous threads on here explaining how to do that.
 
#5 · (Edited)
OK. I will research.

-- edit-- findings
  • Vehicle:
  • The vehicle system knows 4 (or 5 for a spare) sensor id codes
  • Very new Toyotas (2018 and later?) can find new sensors and learn the codes without any help
  • Others,
    • either the codes must be manually entered into the vehicle through the ODB2 port,
    • OR some year vehicles can be put into "relearn mode", a multistep process (turn this, open that n times) similar to reprogramming a key fob
  • Sensors:
  • Sensors either have fixed ID codes OR clever sensors are writeable
  • fixed ID sensors must have their new codes entered or learned by the vehicle
  • writable sensors can be programmed with the EXISTING sensor code, eliminating the need to teach the vehicle
Except for the self-learning vehicles, you need an electronic TPMS tool for the process, $125 and up in 2021
Sometimes dealer software can register 2 sets of sensors for your summer and winter wheels.

Please correct or criticize any part of this.
 
#6 ·
$150 is way too much. It's $60 at my local America's Tire, Discount Tire in other states.

As far as I know the systems that can read the sensor IDs independently are easy, you just need to find compatible sensors/the right frequency.

The system on your model year requires programming or cloning.

@fibber2 I believe is the resident expert on these TPMS sensors...

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#9 ·
TRW is the OEM supplier for Toyota. This system was only used on the Sienna and a few trucks. Most Toyota vehicles use a system made by Pacific Industries.

Fortunately, the TRW sensors are relatively cheap. Here's a set of 4, complete with installation hardware for $40 ($10 a piece). My record for low cost was $7 each for winter wheels, so this is darn close to as cheap as you'll find them.

The downside is that you'll need an ATEQ Quickset or Autel TS-508 to register the set of 4 each season, or pay someone to do the upload.

Alternative is to go with "cloned" sensors that match the ID of your existing sensors. Expect to buy 4 sensors programmed for around $150 to $200 one-time charge.
 
#10 ·
TRW is the OEM supplier for Toyota. This system was only used on the Sienna and a few trucks. Most Toyota vehicles use a system made by Pacific Industries.

Fortunately, the TRW sensors are relatively cheap. Here's a set of 4, complete with installation hardware for $40 ($10 a piece). hr0nKdRdxgt-dQgfNkXPP9AYme6Hx3fD673h38udO1-WeJFMxn4lwaAj5BEALw_wcB[/URL]

The downside is that you'll need an ATEQ Quickset or Autel TS-508 to register the set of 4 each season, or pay someone to do the upload.

Alternative is to go with "cloned" sensors that match the ID of your existing sensors. Expect to buy 4 sensors programmed for around $150 to $200 one-time charge.
Good information, thank you. I will follow up on one of those options.
The TRW brand may be a little more, and the cloned a little less, OK. I really do not want to buy and learn one more tool, I'll probably buy some type of sensors and pay the mechanic to program.
 
#11 ·
Call it an investment, as chances are you will be purchasing additional vehicles over the coming years that have TPMS systems. This is the current tool of choice:


This guy sold hundreds of these (several to members here) for $120, so it looks like they went up $10 recently. Still a bargain, as I paid over $200 when I purchased mine two years ago. Do this with the $40 TRW sensor pack above and use the tool seasonally to update your onboard system, or buy a $110 pack of 4 programmable AUTEL MX1 sensors and make clones for a tool-free seasonal change. Either way you can't beat the total price.

And no, I have no vested interest in selling you on a solution....
 
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Call it an investment, as chances are you will be purchasing additional vehicles over the coming years that have TPMS systems. This is the current tool of choice:

True, other vehicles will need that. I did not think of it. That is the best price by far I have seen for the 508 with ODB connection. I'll get one
 
#16 ·
actually, the batteries on the trws are not that difficult to replace but best price for the batteries i have found are about $13 each. [they are simimlar to key remote batteries but have terminals welded to them at the factory]. you can unsolder your dead battery and solder these in. I sometimse do this and other times jjust put in new sensors
 
#17 ·
If you are going to go to the trouble of depotting (cutting the sensor case open) to replace a battery, you can get mini sockets or tab connection 2032 batteries for a reasonable price on Amazon. Make sure you seal it all back well.

Frankly, I wouldn't even consider attempting to revitalize electronics that have been pounding around in your wheels for the past 15+ years.
 
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Just for clarification, a lot of the sensors are potted; however, the oem type TRW sensors are not. You can snap the case apart and there is a small amomut of glue holding the battery into the back of the case. pry up and it is out. you can unsolder the battery leads from the pcb then solder a new one in and press it back into the case and snap the cover on...good to rerinstall.