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VIN not visible through windshield cutout

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#1 ·
When we bought our 2018 Sienna XLE bought used with 16,000 miles. I walked around it verifying the VIN number. went to the windshield bottom of driver side and through the window only thing I could see was the bottom of the VIN number less than the width of a magazine cover. Then I looked at other NEW Siennas in the dealers inventory and most of them didn't have the VIN centered, but at least they can be seen.

I'm so afraid the dealer or the glass replacer will screw up the installation... and then I'll be married to the dealer service department.

Been there done that.

On my 2006 Corvette they had to replace the right side windshield pillar cover, it was scratched. They installed the part and cracked the windshield. they out on generic rubber trim instead of the Corvette one, etc etc, Took me 6 months to install it correctly.... arrgh

Thanks every one,,,
 
#2 ·
What's your point? I've had a gazillion windshield replacements over 50+ years and had only one that was a problem ... and that was in the 1970's.

My 2014 Sienna, purchased new, is on its 3rd windshield and all of them have been fine until the previous two were cracked by rocks..
 
#6 ·
SORRY, LONG WINDED POST

All cars in the USA the VIN number must be visible through a window in the left front bottom, since the windshield has a baked on black area on the bottom so it hides the glue and body parts. By NHTSA windshield manufacturer has to provide a window to be able to show the VIN through the window. during manufacturing assembly apparently there is a computer that mounts the windshield where it deems what the right place. Apparently my Sienna windshield was mounted too low. that was determined by measuring the gap where the windshield ends on top and the distance to the body.
I've been to Automotive Assembly Plants mostly GM and I know the procedure to mount the windshield in the assembly line. Only time human hands touch it to make sure the the windshield is mounted correctly and they have about 1/8 of an inch to nudge the windshield in position. As the car rolls down the assembly line every step that requires a particular position like the door gaps, trunk gaps, etc So the assembly worker has a set of plastic gauges to measure the distances. Toyota Corollas had a big problem with that about 3 years ago, where you can see by eye the gaps in trunk where not equal between the left and the right.
It's a manufacturing defect. The workers are not checking the gaps at mounting at the end of the assembly.
The robot can and must be programed to put it on the right place. it has laser points that read the edges of the body and that gives them the position to mount the part.

here is a link youtube link for toyota assembly plant
 
#4 · (Edited)
About the only way to locate the glass perfectly is to build a jig, while dry fitting, then give the urethane a couple hours to firm up before removing the jig and installing trim. That's what I did when replacing my own but most people don't want to wait. Professionally installed glass is usually close enough, as long as it doesn't leak or touch metal. I only did it to save money.
 
#5 ·
So back to fundamentals: I think the OP's issue is that he would like to have the VIN on the vehicle clearly visible for the purpose of future vehicle sale/transfer, insurance company physical inspections, etc. And I'm sure he'd like to know why his is not. Just a bad factory original build, or is there something more sinister afloat on his used car purchase?

To fix it likely requires removal of the upper dash pad, or removal of the windshield. Bonded windshields might not come free without breakage, and that opens up a whole new can of worms.... So, what to do?
 
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