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#21 ·
Not yet. My husband works for the company, so we can internally order for 2024. I think 2024s will be hitting lots in October/November.

I agree about the stitching. The red/orange was a deal breaker for me. I can handle the black/silver.
 
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Emily626 said:
Not yet. My husband works for the company, so we can internally order for 2024. I think 2024s will be hitting lots in October/November.

I agree about the stitching. The red/orange was a deal breaker for me. I can handle the black/silver.
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That red stitching makes the van look like something a high school kid would drive. I'm guessing that the 2024 XSE will have the same stitching.

I was thinking maybe have a car upholstery shop going and possibly dial the stitching. Originally I was thinking using a black sharpie, but that might fade over a period of time and possibly look even worse. If I'm going to spend that kind of money on a vehicle, I want it done professionally.
 
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Emily626 said:
Not yet. My husband works for the company, so we can internally order for 2024. I think 2024s will be hitting lots in October/November.

I agree about the stitching. The red/orange was a deal breaker for me. I can handle the black/silver.
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Is just the seats that have the orange/red stitching?

It's just that I plan on folding down the back seats, removing the mid seats (Yes this can be done) and possibly going with Katskin leather covers for my two front seats. That would solve the red stitching thing plus I would have leather (like what I'm used to in my Odyssey) seats. The main reason I like leather seats is because they can take a beating.

It's just that if there's minimal if any red / orange stitching anywhere besides the seats, I could probably take a sharpie or something that would work even more permanent and take care of that myself.

I plan on using this van as a service van. I'm a service electrician.(*).

I plan on setting it up like a Dodge ProMaster City. The reason I don't actually go with a Dodge ProMaster City is because (based on word of mouth and what I've read) they are a rebranded Fiat ("fix it again, Tony").
ProMaster Street also has a reputation for burning oil before the 100K mark.

*As far as tools are concerned, I carry a small tool bag and back and a tool pouch for troubleshooting. My materials(receptacles, switches, breakers...)take up a good bit of airspace but don't wait very much.

If I was a plumber or an AC technician, I wouldn't even entertain the idea of a "soccer mom van" for a service vehicle.
 
#31 ·
You mentioned that you would like to test drive one but not from a dealer you wouldn't buy from. Have you considered renting (this may have been suggested but frankly I don't do the hand wringing thing and couldn't read all of the twists and turns you're taking). Try Hertz. Rent one for as long as you think it will take. On YouTube, very knowledgeable people have reviewed the car (The car care nut is the best for me). Between the two, renting and watching, you should have every piece of info for your eval. Frankly I don't think you should buy it. You're on the fence and seem to like that position.
 
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Paul Levi said:
You mentioned that you would like to test drive one but not from a dealer you wouldn't buy from. Have you considered renting (this may have been suggested but frankly I don't do the hand wringing thing and couldn't read all of the twists and turns you're taking). Try Hertz. Rent one for as long as you think it will take. On YouTube, very knowledgeable people have reviewed the car (The car care nut is the best for me). Between the two, renting and watching, you should have every piece of info for your eval. Frankly I don't think you should buy it. You're on the fence and seem to like that position.
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I've contacted Hertz, Avis, and Enterprise. All three airport locations because I know airport locations usually have more vehicles.

I'm in correspondence with two different Toyota dealerships that have rentals. I'm waiting for them to get an and XSE trim. If not, I guess I'll just have to settle for test driving in XLE.

I'm definitely putting energy into trying to find one that I can test drive for at least a day.

I have been diligently watching multiple YouTube videos and doing lots of research online. Based on the research in the videos I like the vehicle.

I might have to do something shady and go to a dealership or a lot (acting like I'm interested in buying) And then once the test drive is over tell him that I'll think about it. You know the rest.

I just hate wasting somebody's time like that.
 
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If all else fails, you could put down the deposit from the dealer two hours away and have them bring it to you. If you test drive it and don't like it, you may lose the deposit, but you'd know.

Personally, if I were investing this much in a vehicle, I'd probably do my best to also invest the time to go see it (I've driven 2+ hours each way before, though I did enough research that I was pretty confident I'd be bringing something home). I also know, though, that you know your schedule better than I do. Still, if the dealer is interested enough in selling a car, it might be worth asking about meeting somewhere halfway...
 
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Captorofsin said:
If I'd already driven one an XSE (and like the way it rode), I wouldn't be on this discussion. I would probably out driving my brand new silver XSE FWD.

It's just those side walls being so short Make me a little nervous.

I've been beyond diligent trying to find a local dealership that will rent me one of these vehicles for at least a day. 20 minute to 30 minute test drive isnt going to tell me doodly squat.

Based on the fact that it has low profile tires and a sport tuned suspension, I already know that it would drive better than an XLE. I want to know how well it rides. Will I feel every little itty bitty bump on the road?
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Hertz rents Siennas, I know this because I just bought a 2019 XLE from them (the horror...), Only because my 2011 had head gasket failure at 250K. I feel cheated...But the 2019 was a really great choice for us. Just when I had the bank 1 sparkplug change on the 'FE nailed. The FKS is much simpler.
 
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Captorofsin said:
I've contacted Hertz, Avis, and Enterprise. All three airport locations because I know airport locations usually have more vehicles.

I'm in correspondence with two different Toyota dealerships that have rentals. I'm waiting for them to get an and XSE trim. If not, I guess I'll just have to settle for test driving in XLE.

I'm definitely putting energy into trying to find one that I can test drive for at least a day.

I have been diligently watching multiple YouTube videos and doing lots of research online. Based on the research in the videos I like the vehicle.

I might have to do something shady and go to a dealership or a lot (acting like I'm interested in buying) And then once the test drive is over tell him that I'll think about it. You know the rest.

I just hate wasting somebody's time like that.
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If you've never driven any year of Sienna, then the majority of your adaptation will come from the available rental models (XLE with the 2GR-FKS). (Tho I really think hybrids are also available). Then the test drive of the newest will highlight what's changed. IMHO. Moving from a 2011 to 2019 was much easier because I knew how to move the car around. It's much better integrated, a little more powerful, but still felt like a comfortable pair of shoes.
 
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