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I like to ask if anyone who has their 2021 Sienna with 18 or 20" wheels and removed them for the winter. Could you weight them please? Would be good to know how much of a different between the size to determine if it's possible to run 20" on the AWD . Someone post a note from Toyota that they put on 18" for the AWD because of weight so 20" is possible, I just don't want to overload the engine and the electrical motor with 20" wheels if there's a big different in weight. Thanks
 
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Thanks for the info. I found the tires from tirerack.com and it's 27lb so the wheel itself is 29.8lb. If someone want to get larger wheel within the 30lb range and fit the car I think it would be ok for the AWD trim.
 
FYI the 20 inch Michelin Primacy that come on the 20's are listed at 29lbs. So not a big difference. We need to find out the weight of the 20 inch rim though. Another interesting FYI is that the tire selection for the size Toyota spec'ed out have limited choices. On tirerack.com they come out with only 6 choices and they're all quite pricey. The OEM Primacy's are $263 each! Might want to factor that in. I'll admit the 20's look great though.
 
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Talked to the parts department at the local dealer. You can order the stock 20” black rims. $650 a piece 😳 😳 😳 Even they recommend getting aftermarket
The OEM 20" is $650 each. I like the OEM wheels but with that price and they're just a cover over steel or some cheap alloy I would go with after market wheels that fit if I decided to get the AWD trim.
 
Just placed an order for a Ruby Platinum AWD and going to order some TSW Rotary Forged wheels. These typically weigh in at 21-25 lbs. Currently running 20x8.5 Nurburgring (21lbs) with Continental DWS 06 245/45/20 on 2015 Limited.

To answer the the original post; yes, you can run 20’s but you need to spend the extra money to get forged wheels which weigh less and thus less unsprung weight. Regardless of 4cyl or horsepower, you want less unsprung weight at the corners. This affects the handling of the vehicle to ride smoother and to be more balanced.

The TSW‘s are excellent quality wheels and the Rotary Forged ones cost around $400-450, so way better than going with OEM. The Continental’s come with a 50K warranty and are a great a tire. I do run a dedicated winter bolt on set of Blizzaks on OEM 18’s.

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Took delivery of Ruby Platinum AWD and installed 20x8.5 TSW Geneva. Rotary Forged and weigh 28lbs. A little more than the Nurburgring, but still very light. Going in for tint next.

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Yes, lots of wheels weigh in in the mid 30’s. 6lbs makes a difference in unsprung weight. Keep in mind also these are Rotary Forged which are going to be much stronger with better structural integrity. Nurburgrings were 23lbs. Would have preferred that weight again, but wanted a different look.
 
Wondering how this would work or look with the new XSE. It's only 23.8 lbs from Fast wheels

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Im going to order these exact wheels for my white xse awd. I wanted the bronze, but not available in 20". Most likely going to wrap them with Goodyear Eagle Sport A/S 245/50/20. I will use the OEM 18s with winter tires.
 
FYI the 20 inch Michelin Primacy that come on the 20's are listed at 29lbs. So not a big difference. We need to find out the weight of the 20 inch rim though. Another interesting FYI is that the tire selection for the size Toyota spec'ed out have limited choices. On tirerack.com they come out with only 6 choices and they're all quite pricey. The OEM Primacy's are $263 each! Might want to factor that in. I'll admit the 20's look great though.
20” wheel on the bathroom scale is 62.2
FYI the 20 inch Michelin Primacy that come on the 20's are listed at 29lbs. So not a big difference. We need to find out the weight of the 20 inch rim though. Another interesting FYI is that the tire selection for the size Toyota spec'ed out have limited choices. On tirerack.com they come out with only 6 choices and they're all quite pricey. The OEM Primacy's are $263 each! Might want to factor that in. I'll admit the 20's look great though.
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20" wheel off the platinum 62.2 lbs
 
20” wheel on the bathroom scale is 62.2

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20" wheel off the platinum 62.2 lbs
For comparison, the 17in stock wheels (LE/XLE) weighs 58 lbs. With brand new stock Yokohamas. I bought 18 inch rims from the 2019 highlander (5 split spoke) - 28 lbs for the rims. 26 lbs for the Bridgestone Ecopias. Sadly - i have not weighed them together since the shop mounted & installed them at the same time.
 
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