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Which Toyota rims fit Siennas - Highlander?

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#1 ·
Anyone know which rims from other Toyota cars or trucks will fit the 2011+ Sienna (SE in particular)? I heard somewhere that all Toyotas have the same bolt pattern, but I'm not sure if that's true. Anyone know what the offset specs are for our vans?

I would imagine prior generation Sienna rims would fit, but you don't see those for sale very often. I'm thinking about picking up a cheap set of rims to mount snow tires on.
 
#3 ·
predawn_patrol said:
Anyone know which rims from other Toyota cars or trucks will fit the 2011+ Sienna (SE in particular)? I heard somewhere that all Toyotas have the same bolt pattern, but I'm not sure if that's true. Anyone know what the offset specs are for our vans?
Certainly not all Toyotas, but wheels from many Toyota (and Lexus) models which share many mechanical components will fit the hubs (same bolt pattern and centre bore). That means all larger (i.e. not Corolla/Matrix or Yaris or Prius) unibody (i.e. not pickups/Sequoia/4Runner/FJ) vehicles:
Sienna (all generations)
Highlander
RAV4
Venza
Camry
Avalon
Lexus ES
Lexus RX
and presumably some other Lexus

Although the SE is the only Sienna to come with 19" wheels, I don't know of any difference in wheel fit between the trim versions, so the fact that it is an SE shouldn't matter; the winter set can be a different wheel size if desired.

predawn_patrol said:
I would imagine prior generation Sienna rims would fit, but you don't see those for sale very often
The biggest problems are brake clearance and offset; the third generation Sienna uses less offset than the second generation, to widen the track width. This will be an issue with wheels from various models.
 
#4 ·
Seanzky said:
I've seen the Highlanders done, but not previous Siennas because of the caliper/disc brake size.
The 16" base size wheels from a second gen would be out, and second-gen spares don't fit, but I have not heard if second-gen 17" wheels fit the over the third-generation brakes or not. One concern would be that the offset would not be the same, which may be a problem for brake clearance as well as the other usual concerns of offset.
 
#6 ·
PatrickB said:
I had '08 base model 17" Highlander wheels w/ snow tires on my '11 Sienna SE for the winter. No issues at all. The offset is the same but the rim is just a bit wider.
Good info. Do you know the actual width and offset values? A second-generation Sienna wheel is 6 1/2" wide, with an offset of 45 mm or 50 mm; I know that the third-generation wheel has less offset, and I can only guess that it is wider, although the 17", 18", and 19" wheels could all have different offsets and widths (even though all come from the factory with tires of 235 mm section width).

A base 2008 Highlander came with 245/65R17 tires, according to Tire Rack.
 
#7 ·
predawn_patrol said:
Although the SE is the only Sienna to come with 19" wheels, ...
Just a quick correction ... my Limited also came with the 19" inch rims with 6 spokes ... similar to the SE according to the brochure that I saw. I tried getting after market steel rims for my snows last November and according to all my sources ... non were available without ordering another set of OEM ... which I wasn't about to do. So I wound up just switching the summer and snow tires on the original rims this year. Hopefully something will be out before next winter.
 
#8 ·
Karsty said:
predawn_patrol said:
Although the SE is the only Sienna to come with 19" wheels, ...
Just a quick correction ... my Limited also came with the 19" inch rims with 6 spokes ... similar to the SE according to the brochure that I saw.
Good catch; I should have said that only the SE comes with 19" wheels as standard equipment. In Canada the 19" setup is available as an option, but only on the XLE 7-passenger V6. Toyota Canada does not offer the Limited except in AWD, and all AWD Siennas get the 18" run-flats. In the U.S. the 19" wheels are presumably available - again only as a option - in some of the other combinations that we don't get here.
 
#10 ·
brian_bp said:
PatrickB said:
I had '08 base model 17" Highlander wheels w/ snow tires on my '11 Sienna SE... The offset is the same but the rim is just a bit wider.
Good info. Do you know the actual width and offset values? A second-generation Sienna wheel is 6 1/2" wide, with an offset of 45 mm or 50 mm; I know that the third-generation wheel has less offset, and I can only guess that it is wider, although the 17", 18", and 19" wheels could all have different offsets and widths (even though all come from the factory with tires of 235 mm section width).

A base 2008 Highlander came with 245/65R17 tires, according to Tire Rack.
The 2008 Highlander owner's manual confirms the tire size (P245/65R17 base, or P245/55R19 with others) and specifies that the wheels are 7.5" wide (17" and 19" Highlander wheels are the same width). The 2011 Sienna owner's manual specifies that the wheels of all diameters are 7" wide. It makes some sense that the Highlander's 10 mm wider tires could use about that much (1/2" is 12.7 mm) more wheel width.

Third-generation Sienna wheels are now known to be 1/2" wider than second-generation Sienna wheels.

Does the Highlander wheel really have the same offset (as the current Sienna)? I would guess that it has the same backspacing, with the extra 1/2" of wheel width being added entirely outboard and thus 1/4" less offset... but that's only a guess.

Summary of wheel widths and diameters:
  • 2004-2010 Sienna - 6 1/2" (16", 17" diameter)
  • 2011 Sienna - 7" (17", 18", 19" diameter)
  • 2008 Highlander - 7 1/2" (17", 19" diameter)
 
#11 ·
brian_bp said:
The 2008 Highlander owner's manual confirms the tire size...........
I see you've put the newfound knowledge of the owners manual search function to good use! ;D
 
#12 ·
Fibber2 said:
brian_bp said:
The 2008 Highlander owner's manual confirms the tire size...........
I see you've put the newfound knowledge of the owners manual search function to good use! ;D
Absolutely! :D

(For those not following this exchange: I pulled the 2008 Highlander spec from an owner's manual downloaded from Toyota Owners Online, having been informed by Fibber2 that all owner's manuals are available there to any registered user, regardless of their own registered vehicles.)
 
#14 ·
newfie sienna said:
My dealer checked out which rims fit wish i could remember what vehicle it was from. Think they are 17 inch steel rim from a rav 4 but im not certain, purchased them with the van and 4 new snow tires.
According to owner's manuals, 17" RAV4 wheels first appeared with the third generation (model years 2006 to current), and they are 6 1/2" wide if steel, and 7" wide if alloy.

Other RAV4 wheels have included 16" (in both steel and alloy), 17x7" alloy (in addition to the steel), and 18x7.5" (only in the current generation, and only since sometime after 2007)

Back in 2004, I looked at steel wheels for our Sienna for winter in the stock LE size (so that's 16"), and found that both the RAV4 and the Highlander of that vintage had 16" steel wheels... but the Highlander was the nicer-looking style in which the seam between centre section and rim is right at the rim edge, so they look one-piece. They would have been the same width (6 1/2") either way, so it is interesting that the two versions existed.
 
#16 ·
Sorry for digging this one out of its grave but do you guys know if any non-toyota wheel can also fit a 2011 Sienna ? I'm looking for a cheap winter set. I was looking at some nice Saturn Vue alloys that looked OK at first but the centre bore and bolt pattern were off by a little margin.
 
#17 ·
I've seen somewhere around that a Lincoln rim was used which would tell me perhaps a Ford rim would be similar. They were a little big on the offset but close enough. I bought my Highlander rims for $250 and I've seen others out there for similar $$. Not sure you can pick up any OEM rims for much less than that.
 
#18 ·
There is a lot of great stuff on craigslist in the USA but in the Quebec area the only thing I managed to find is a set of Rav4 aluminium wheels for 500$ which is to expensive since Toyota sells the steel wheels for 100$/each with tax.

Just to be sure, 2006+ Rav4 aluminium wheels should fit a 2011 Sienna right?
These would look much better than steelies.
http://quebec.kijiji.ca/c-autos-et-...auto-pneus-pneus-jantes-Roues-dorigine-17-de-Rav4-2009-pneus-W0QQAdIdZ368018903
http://quebec.kijiji.ca/c-autos-et-...autos-et-vehicules-pieces-auto-pneus-pneus-jantes-pneu-hiver-W0QQAdIdZ361523299
 
#19 ·
Sorry for digging this one out of its grave but do you guys know if any non-toyota wheel can also fit a 2011 Sienna ? I'm looking for a cheap winter set. I was looking at some nice Saturn Vue alloys that looked OK at first but the centre bore and bolt pattern were off by a little margin.
As far as I have seen, no one but Toyota uses a 60.1 mm centre bore, so no other OEM wheel will be an exact fit. Aftermarket wheels are almost never made to fit the centre bore, especially cheap ones. This leaves using a ring to fill the space - most aftermarket wheels are made with a big centre bore and the right ring is used to fit each different hub. If you can find the right ring, you could use another wheel.

I'm looking for a second set as well (although I want to buy 17" wheels for summer and use the original 16" wheels for winter), and I would much rather just have Toyota wheels than make something else work. Unfortunately, they seem hard to find inexpensively.
 
#20 ·
Brian is correct about the situation with wheel center bore and the use of removable centering rings. And I do appreciate his dislike/distrust of aftermarket wheels.

If this is a totally new purchase of winter tires, why not consider a wheel/tire/TPMS package from one of the retailers like Tire Rack. I've used several sets of their house brand "Sport Edition" alloy rims over the years with good results. Very competitively priced and they wear very well. Honestly, the finish has held up better to winter conditions than some of my OEM wheels have. I am, of course, a bit OCD and wash & wax my wheels with every seasonal changeover!

While the centering ring system can work well, I highly recommend the use of a little bit of Permatex Anti-Seize around the hub to prevent the ring from sticking in place (aluminum & steel contact interaction).
 
#21 ·
Yes, they will fit if the offset is correct; however, both of the linked ads are offering steel wheels, not alloys. They're the nicely styled steel wheels that Highlanders and RAV4s get and use with small centre caps (not the basic wheels which are used with full covers), but they're steel.
 
#22 ·
I'm a little confused about the Sienna's offset. I've done some digging on the forum and I found conflicting information. Some threads mention a 35mm offset for the 17 inch rims and other threads mention a 45mm offset.

Wich is it?

I'm looking at Rav4 styled steel wheels that have a 45mm offset as a winter set.
 
#24 ·
Since the third generation Sienna has a wider track with the same suspension, it has less offset, so the offset value depends on the year. I believe it is 45 mm up to 2010, and 35 mm starting 2011.
That is correct. The RAV4 17" steels have a 45mm offset but they are 17x6.5". It's a little off but the smaller width alloy compensates for the larger offset. My Toyota dealership confirms that they sell many of these tire/rim combos to 2011+ Siennas for a winter pkg.

The 2008 Highlander base alloys which are used have a 35mm offset but they are 17x7.5". Same offset but 1/2 larger width alloy. Confirmed working by Patrick B (see previous messages and pic).

The 2011 Sienna ALL have a 35mm offset with any of their stock 17x7, 18x7, 19x7 alloys.

Do not get confused with the previous 2nd generation that have a 45mm offset. The 16" alloys or steels will not work with the 2011+. However, there is a 17x6.5" 45mm offset alloys that were on the 2nd gen Sienna that should fit as well. It's basically the same spec as the RAV4 17" steels. If the RAV4 ones work, I don't see why this shouldn't.
 
#25 ·
That is correct. The RAV4 17" steels have a 45mm offset but they are 17x6.5". It's a little off but the smaller width alloy compensates for the larger offset. My Toyota dealership confirms that they sell many of these tire/rim combos to 2011+ Siennas for a winter pkg .
If this is true it would be great. I found a set of styled steel 17 inch wheels from a 2009 rav4 for a good price on local adds but I wasn't sure it would fit my 2011 Sienna. ALready bought the tires with the van last year but 400$+tx for 4 brown steel wheel was just ridiculous.

Found an offset calculator but I'm not sure what half the stuff mentioned is.

 
#26 ·
You guys have to remember that the OFFSET does not ultimately determine if it "fits" the sienna or not, mainly due to the brake caliper size.

The most important factor is the way how the inner spoke will clear the brake caliper.
If the info is available, you want something that has a high disc that can give maximum clearance for the brake caliper.

Often times, if it hasn't been documented or tried before, it's going to be a "let's see if it fits" ;D

Don't be stuck buying some wheels that are non-refundable and you end up getting stuck with it b/c it didn't "clear the brake caliper".

Worst if it doesn't clear is you get some spacers.