[RCP2013]

SL for the Falkens. The AT3W's are XL but a few lbs heavier.

Not sure what size to go with if I stick with 17s.. 235/70/17 would be the logical choice, 1" taller that stock but Falken nor Nitto's are available in that size.

In my opinion, it was best for me to go with that added rotational weight along with a lower role resistance with the XL.
The XL load for my tire anyway was a game changer on making the van, even more responsive without feeling every bump on the highway.

 

[RCP2013]

When I was doing my research and narrowed it down to the Nitto Nomad Grappler, I felt that America’s tire had the best pricing with more than enough selection.
I just did a quick search on that size you have listed 235/70/17, I saw several decent choices in the XL load rating with great mileage warranty.
I would’ve preferred 17 inch with minimum one size taller profile for my tires to give me that added cushion when I am on trails but I am happy with the set up I have as well.

 

[KuJ1AS]

I am also interested in the 3" lift kit.

Just talked with Kendall Toyota, and a tech told me that SOME Siennas develop a slight shimmy in the steering wheel as a result of this lift. He said it is not fixable.

Anybody experienced this ?

Any info / thoughts appreciated.

 

[RCP2013]

On my 2022 limited all wheel drive hybrid, I had to replace the linkage a due to knocking profusely. The knocking started after putting about 7000 miles on the van post lift. It would get so loud. It sounded like the suspension was going to come apart while driving.

When I contacted journeys off road, which took several calls, because they did not reply to my message, they claimed they were unaware of any issues?
I ordered my replacement linkage directly from Moog and I no longer have the knocking that I had with the originals that came with the kit.

 

[yonah]

I am also interested in the 3" lift kit.

Just talked with Kendall Toyota, and a tech told me that SOME Siennas develop a slight shimmy in the steering wheel as a result of this lift. He said it is not fixable.

Anybody experienced this ?

Any info / thoughts appreciated.

On my 2022 limited all wheel drive hybrid, I had to replace the linkage a due to knocking profusely. The knocking started after putting about 7000 miles on the van post lift. It would get so loud. It sounded like the suspension was going to come apart while driving.

When I contacted journeys off road, which took several calls, because they did not reply to my message, they claimed they were unaware of any issues?
I ordered my replacement linkage directly from Moog and I no longer have the knocking that I had with the originals that came with the kit.

There was a good thread on the JOR lift for the 4th Gen on one of the FB 4th Gen Sienna groups (I think), or it may have been on the lifted Sienna FB Group - can’t remember.

Anyway, one of the guys in that thread is a SAE certified mechanic and a 4th Gen owner. He installed a 3” on his van and said the driveline components (I assume the CV shafts) were at a pretty extreme angle. I messaged him about it and he informed me he swapped out the 3” for the 2” kit as it seemed like a better long term compromise between lift height and longevity of driveline components. Something to consider.

I think that if I go the JOR route, I’ll probably do the same - 2” lift and stick with the OEM tire size, albeit with a slightly more durable/higher performance tire. I think a 2” + airbags in the rear will be a good fit for our family’s use case. Though the 3” lift with a slightly upsized tire looks excellent.

 

[KuJ1AS]

@yonah - thank you for sharing that.
It would be very helpful to find out the difference between the shaft angle with the 2" and 3" lifts, as opposed to the original OEM angle.

Will look more into this. Even though the CV axle replacement is nothing major ...

 

[vs9909]

I am also interested in the 3" lift kit.

Just talked with Kendall Toyota, and a tech told me that SOME Siennas develop a slight shimmy in the steering wheel as a result of this lift. He said it is not fixable.

Anybody experienced this ?

Any info / thoughts appreciated.

Interesting, haven't seen any reports of this before (I imagine they would be posted here if anywhere). I believe JOR even mentioned at one point the driveline angles are less extreme on 4th gen than 3rd FWIW.

 

[RCP2013]

Interesting, haven't seen any reports of this before (I imagine they would be posted here if anywhere). I believe JOR even mentioned at one point the driveline angles are less extreme on 4th gen than 3rd FWIW.

I inspect my CV boots often and there is zero premature, where between the fins on the boots and no noise upon rotation as per myself, and a mechanics inspection.

I’ve had my wheels cranked on trails at angles, and what not, and will be doing the same come Labor Day up in the Sierras between Bishop and Bridgeport CA.

 

[KuJ1AS]

@RCP2013 - Please share what lift did you get (2" or 3"), how many miles with the lift, etc.
I understand you are also going offroad with the Sienna, how is it behaving (with the lift) ?
Thanks !

 

[RCP2013]

@RCP2013 - Please share what lift did you get (2" or 3"), how many miles with the lift, etc.
I understand you are also going offroad with the Sienna, how is it behaving (with the lift) ?
Thanks !

I went with the
journeys, off-road 3 inch lift
Fire stone airbags in the rear springs-fire stone does not make airbags for my 2022 limited all-wheel-drive hybrid. I sent them detailed pictures when I was able to get the airbags to work without any butchering of my vehicle. All those pictures are listed on this website because I shared them here as well.
I also have sumo spring bushings in the front springs to eliminate some of the SAG in the vehicle as well.
I also went with Nitto nomad grappler tires the XL load range. I was able to go up one size taller than the stock tires that came on my van. The tires equally make as much of a difference with regard to handling on and off road.
I posted on here the other day when somebody started a discussion about problems with the journey’s off-road lift. I posted my linkage that came with the lift started knocking on both sides at about 3500 miles or so. I contacted Moog direct and got replacement linkage and I put several miles on my van now with no more noise whatsoever.

My van sits just as high as a Subaru, if not higher and handles nicely on trails and on the highway.

 

[KuJ1AS]

Awesome, thank you RCP2013 !!!

 

[RCP2013]

Awesome, thank you RCP2013 !!!

You’re welcome!

 

[Bill in Tulsa]

I went with the
journeys, off-road 3 inch lift
Fire stone airbags in the rear springs-fire stone does not make airbags for my 2022 limited all-wheel-drive hybrid. I sent them detailed pictures when I was able to get the airbags to work without any butchering of my vehicle. All those pictures are listed on this website because I shared them here as well.
I also have sumo spring bushings in the front springs to eliminate some of the SAG in the vehicle as well.
I also went with Nitto nomad grappler tires the XL load range. I was able to go up one size taller than the stock tires that came on my van. The tires equally make as much of a difference with regard to handling on and off road.
I posted on here the other day when somebody started a discussion about problems with the journey’s off-road lift. I posted my linkage that came with the lift started knocking on both sides at about 3500 miles or so. I contacted Moog direct and got replacement linkage and I put several miles on my van now with no more noise whatsoever.

My van sits just as high as a Subaru, if not higher and handles nicely on trails and on the highway.

How did you get the Firestone Air Bags to work on the AWD 2022 Sienna? Please let me know!

 

[RCP2013]

How did you get the Firestone Air Bags to work on the AWD 2022 Sienna? Please let me know!

Bill,
there is a whole file built on all of this stuff. I’ve submitted everything. In detail on how to remove your Jounce stop to route in the Airline and install of your bag, etc.
I contacted fire stone when I found out that the spring sizes were the same on the 2 Wheel Dr. or all wheel drive. The fire stone employee informed me that they did not have the time to work on a kit for the all-wheel-drive sienna as of yet and they could not make any guarantees that it would fit?
You do not have to remove the coil spring, or any suspension to do the install.

you will need the oversized pair of channel locks to utilize for removing the Jounce stops. Please review the files that are posted on this site regarding Jen for all wheel drive airbag installation.

I will be intermittently at my phone, currently at work covering an extremely busy ER.

 

[Bill in Tulsa]

Bill,
there is a whole file built on all of this stuff. I’ve submitted everything. In detail on how to remove your Jounce stop to route in the Airline and install of your bag, etc.
I contacted fire stone when I found out that the spring sizes were the same on the 2 Wheel Dr. or all wheel drive. The fire stone employee informed me that they did not have the time to work on a kit for the all-wheel-drive sienna as of yet and they could not make any guarantees that it would fit?
You do not have to remove the coil spring, or any suspension to do the install.

you will need the oversized pair of channel locks to utilize for removing the Jounce stops. Please review the files that are posted on this site regarding Jen for all wheel drive airbag installation.

I will be intermittently at my phone, currently at work covering an extremely busy ER.

Thank you very much......

 

[RCP2013]

Thank you very much......

You’re welcome.
As I’ve mentioned on this site to others, feel free to reach out with any other added questions.
Sometimes I can reply quicker than others, depending on my work schedule.
The Fire stone airbags, believe it or not or one of the easier modifications, I added to my vehicle. The problem was I was a little nervous, because all over the Internet, and with the manufacturer them, stating that it would not work.
I gave fire stone all the details on the installation and the employee I spoke to he put it all into a file.

 

[yonah]

No problem on sharing the info! Honestly don’t understand why more peeps don’t help others on the upgrade installation info.
A fire stone representative asked me to send him those detailed pictures because they do not make the bags for the all-wheel-drive hybrid as of yet.
The airbags went on, fairly simple, I just had to sit back and think it through. You do not have to remove your Springs.
That black tubing that you see on the top of the airbag, the air line is inside that fuel line, are used it for protection, going through the hole, where it is routed through to prevent any friction rubbing.
The sumo spacers, I drilled holes in them, so I could zip tie them on just like a pair I installed on my Toyota Highlander that came with the holes.

@RCP2013 is there a specific part number for the Sumo Springs you installed? Assuming they have different sizes, etc.

 

[RCP2013]

@RCP2013 is there a specific part number for the Sumo Springs you installed? Assuming they have different sizes, etc.

I called etrailers.com & bought the FWD 2022 Sienna Sumo spacers. At the time, there wasn’t an AWD version available.
The groove in the spacers I installed fit well.

The Sumo spacers I bought in past for my 08 Limited Highlander had pre drilled holes for placement of a zip ties they supplied to secure the upper portion to the springs.

I pre-drilled holes in the spacers for my sienna because I wanted the added security so that they stayed really snug in place like on my Highlander.

See attached picture.

 

[KuJ1AS]

@RCP2013 - just so I clear my head from misunderstanding:

you have an AWD 2022 Sienna ?

you bought sumo coils/spacers for the FWD 2022 Sienna front suspension, and installed them in the rear ? Or in the front ?

Thanks ! -- Sorry if I missed this info from other threads, I am reading a lot about this and might have mixed some details.

 

[RCP2013]

@RCP2013 - just so I clear my head from misunderstanding:

you have an AWD 2022 Sienna ?

you bought sumo coils/spacers for the FWD 2022 Sienna front suspension, and installed them in the rear ? Or in the front ?

Thanks ! -- Sorry if I missed this info from other threads, I am reading a lot about this and might have mixed some details.

No worries on asking questions, trust me I ask at times more than once you always want to confirm when you’re going to do an install especially. I bought the front wheel drive sumo bushings and installed them on my 2022 limited all wheel drive in the front. At the time last year, when I was looking for the sumo bushings, they did not make them or have them listed as fitting the all-wheel-drive. They fit fine, but they were unsure because there were changes to the van prior year.
The back I have Fire stone airbags.