[RCP2013]

This is great! Exactly what I was looking for and then some. I knew there was a way to mount them with the outlet facing up (i.e. not drilling the bottom of the spring perch) and you've shown it's possible.

I like the fuel line idea. It makes a good sheathing for the airline. I picked up a similar product that is made for sheathing wiring harnesses in racing engine bays - it's abrasion and heat resistant. I've read on some of the offroad forums that if you can protect the line from heat (which you did with the routing path alone - away from the exhaust) it can last for decades without any cracks or failures. This upward routing is also preferred, IMO, as it reduces the risk of road debris snagging or damaging it.

Here's my ongoing modification thread: Traveler - The Family Hauler/Roadtrip Van

I'll tag your username in my install photos. I appreciate the assist; again, very helpful. 🍻

Anytime on sharing info! My next thing I plan to tackle is remove the rear seat and utilize that compartment. I currently have those pack out Milwaukee boxes mounted to the mounting plates on a piece of plywood that I cut out and wrapped with indoor outdoor carpet.
It serves its purpose currently, and does not shift around and rub on the doors or anything in the back. My plan is to cut that board in half and fabricate a frame out of extruded aluminum and do two separate slide outs one for the refrigerator and one for the pack out boxes which I have two facing out the back door and two facing inward in the van. This would allow me to maximize storage and access space without tweaking my back. I could pull each individual slide out Out so that I can access the third row seating compartment that I will be using for storage as well.

 

[Arafi]

Would love more details on how you removed the glued on caps and close ups of the wheels underneath?

 

[RCP2013]

Would love more details on how you removed the glued on caps and close ups of the wheels underneath?

You need at minimum (1) 3’ pry bar Home Depot. You will have to place something plastic ( Scraper in paint Dept. between the tire & lip of wheel to slide the pry bar in a little at a time. As you pry, start rotating around whole hubcap to loosen. The industrial grade adhesive holding the chrome hubcaps is insane. You may think you’re doing a CrossFit workout on the removal work🤷‍♂️🤣🤣.
I have other project Toyotas as well therefore I am in no rush to track the necessary info as to how much heat I can apply with a heat gun for adhesive removal. I have been told by onlookers that the adhesive on the wheels gives it an off-road look🤷‍♂️.

 

[Arafi]

@RCP2013 - thank you for the pics. Th wheels on our '21 Platinum are my biggest pet peeve. I am on the fence with how the adhesive looks, and if you ever try to remove the adhesive - I would want to hear your thoughts on how it went.

 

[RCP2013]

@RCP2013 - thank you for the pics. Th wheels on our '21 Platinum are my biggest pet peeve. I am on the fence with how the adhesive looks, and if you ever try to remove the adhesive - I would want to hear your thoughts on how it went.

I will probably try and contact a few Powdercoat companies and we’ll companies as well to try to determine how much heat I can apply here soon maybe in the next few weeks.
With the lift, I was able to go up one size on the tires.
The tires I got are a game changer, they are the Nitto nomad Grappler. These tires initially were designed to put on the adventure versions of the Subarus.
No road noise from these tires a little stiffer side wall so reduced body roll and on the road or on trails they are pretty phenomenal I have to say.

 

[Arafi]

I will probably try and contact a few Powdercoat companies and we’ll companies as well to try to determine how much heat I can apply here soon maybe in the next few weeks.
With the lift, I was able to go up one size on the tires.
The tires I got are a game changer, they are the Nitto nomad Grappler. These tires initially were designed to put on the adventure versions of the Subarus.
No road noise from these tires a little stiffer side wall so reduced body roll and on the road or on trails they are pretty phenomenal I have to say.

Thanks again, and I omitted saying how awesome your van looks

 

[RCP2013]

Thanks again, and I omitted saying how awesome your van looks

You’re very welcome! Thank you.
I am fairly new to this site and thoroughly impressed on how helpful people are for the most part on posting and sharing.
I was able to do all my upgrades myself, which I try to do on most of my vehicles that are also Toyota’s.

 

[yonah]

Anytime on sharing info! My next thing I plan to tackle is remove the rear seat and utilize that compartment. I currently have those pack out Milwaukee boxes mounted to the mounting plates on a piece of plywood that I cut out and wrapped with indoor outdoor carpet.
It serves its purpose currently, and does not shift around and rub on the doors or anything in the back. My plan is to cut that board in half and fabricate a frame out of extruded aluminum and do two separate slide outs one for the refrigerator and one for the pack out boxes which I have two facing out the back door and two facing inward in the van. This would allow me to maximize storage and access space without tweaking my back. I could pull each individual slide out Out so that I can access the third row seating compartment that I will be using for storage as well.

One more question - did you modify the upper spring perch in order to route the air line? It's hard to tell from this photo (below), but it looks like the upper perch was notched to allow enough clearance for the line to exit the perch - maybe I'm wrong? Area of interest is circled in red.

 

[RCP2013]

One more question - did you modify the upper spring perch in order to route the air line? It's hard to tell from this photo (below), but it looks like the upper perch was notched to allow enough clearance for the line to exit the perch - maybe I'm wrong? Area of interest is circled in red.

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That was actually the easiest part of routine the air line. It’s a plastic cover & there is more than enough room to drill the plastic & not compromise anything structurally.

 

[yonah]

That was actually the easiest part of routine the air line. It’s a plastic cover & there is more than enough room to drill the plastic & not compromise anything structurally.

No kidding… perfect. I assume it’s the mirror situation on the opposite side of the vehicle? I.e. the plastic cover and indentation in the spring perch is present on the driver and passenger side rear of the vehicle?

Sounds like this is a straightforward install. Incredible that Firestone is still stating that their airbag kit isn’t compatible with the 4th Gen AWD models. At this point, it’s proven compatibility in my book.

 

[RCP2013]

No kidding… perfect. I assume it’s the mirror situation on the opposite side of the vehicle? I.e. the plastic cover and indentation in the spring perch is present on the driver and passenger side rear of the vehicle?

Sounds like this is a straightforward install. Incredible that Firestone is still stating that their airbag kit isn’t compatible with the 4th Gen AWD models. At this point, it’s proven compatibility in my book.

When I contacted fire stone and told them I was going to install the bags or attempt to. The guy asked me to send them some photos providing they did not have to do any hacking on the vehicle.
I took those detailed pictures. I have on this side and sent them to the guy at fire stone and he called me back. Super stoked.
As big of a company they are they have to cover their tail due to so many lawsuits out there.

 

[RCP2013]

When I contacted fire stone and told them I was going to install the bags or attempt to. The guy asked me to send them some photos providing they did not have to do any hacking on the vehicle.
I took those detailed pictures. I have on this side and sent them to the guy at fire stone and he called me back. Super stoked.
As big of a company they are they have to cover their tail due to so many lawsuits out there.

Most important, Lots of dish soap on the bags when fitting them through the spring!

 

[yonah]

@admin or @fibber2 - any chance we can get the above airbag-related posts (from pp. 1-2 of this thread) removed from this thread and consolidated into one of the 4th Gen Sienna helper airbag related threads? This is great and very helpful content that would prove to be extremely useful for someone planning/researching an airbag install into a 4th Gen; however, despite its value, this content is a bit off topic for this specific thread discussing JOR 4th Gen Sienna lift kits. Just a thought that I think would help to structure the 4th Gen vehicle modification content on this forum.

 

[fibber2]

I can't tonight, but let me look at it later in the week.

 

[fibber2]

@yonah I gave this some thought, but don't see a compelling reason to strip the airbag content. I did, however, copy the Firestone airbag-related posts from here to this thread (2021 Sienna LE FWD with helper bags / air springs installed) for cross-reference.

As per the above discussion, there is an interest in exploring and possibly applying combination techniques, and there is certainly enough interest in both of these to warrant keeping them as-is. And now that we have linked them, it will remain a great resource for members interested in one or both.

There have been other discussions about Journey kits in the past. If you are really worried about structure and flow of discussions keeping it all in one place, we could combine all of these discussions into a brand new tread. Or just leave it as it plays out. I don't believe that anyone will have trouble finding or following your content.

Thanks for your interest and assistance to the community.

 

[vs9909]

Any feedback on whether upgrading from LE 17's to 18's would help much with a tighter ride? Im thinking of plus-sizing the tires and afraid the JOR lift + taller sidewall would add too much body roll.

 

[RCP2013]

No added sway or delayed response in handling with the lift and the size tires on my stock 18 inch wheels that came with my van.
Notice they are an XL load rated.
With the listed tires, my van is much more responsive and my German shepherds, that ride in the midsection can attest to that on mountain road driving🤷‍♂️😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[vs9909]

No added sway or delayed response in handling with the lift and the size tires on my stock 18 inch wheels that came with my van.
Notice they are an XL load rated.
With the listed tires, my van is much more responsive and my German shepherds, that ride in the midsection can attest to that on mountain road driving🤷‍♂️😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What are you seeing MPG-wise? I'm leaning towards Falken wildpeak AT, I think they would be lighter (just a guess), but the Nittos do look nice.

 

[RCP2013]

I do a long commute for work, almost 6 hours from Southern California to the bay area twice a month. I generally run between 75 to 85 mph and my mileage in the 80s is an about the 27 to 28 range.
Driving 65 to 70 with two German shepherds, and the general things that are in the back of my van, see attached pic, I get in the 34 to 36 mpg range.

What is the load rating on sidewall of model you are looking at?
P-load, XL-load, C, D, E?

I am going to run the Falkens on my first GEN crew, cab, 4 x 4 tundra, but I did not see the size I was looking for with the exact load I preferred for the sienna.

 

[vs9909]

I do a long commute for work, almost 6 hours from Southern California to the bay area twice a month. I generally run between 75 to 85 mph and my mileage in the 80s is an about the 27 to 28 range.
Driving 65 to 70 with two German shepherds, and the general things that are in the back of my van, see attached pic, I get in the 34 to 36 mpg range.

What is the load rating on sidewall of model you are looking at?
P-load, XL-load, C, D, E?

I am going to run the Falkens on my first GEN crew, cab, 4 x 4 tundra, but I did not see the size I was looking for with the exact load I preferred for the sienna.

SL for the Falkens. The AT3W's are XL but a few lbs heavier.

Not sure what size to go with if I stick with 17s.. 235/70/17 would be the logical choice, 1" taller that stock but Falken nor Nitto's are available in that size.